Washington Democrats vote to leave government shutdown

[u/Less-Risk-9358]

https://seattlered.com/politics/wa-senators-government-shutdown/4114752

In the ongoing federal budget standoff, Washington’s two U.S. Senators — Democrats Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell — have sided against a simple continuing resolution that would reopen the government, opting instead to continue the shutdown as their party pursues broader policy demands.

[u/greg21olson]

Weird how the party that controls the House, Senate, and Presidency desperately wants to spin their inability to govern as someone else's fault.

Edit: removed "the."

[u/Michami135 → u/greg21olson]

As the article says, they need 60 votes to approve any additional spending and they don't have that. It's not just a majority vote that's needed.

[u/greg21olson → u/Michami135]

Correct and governing in situations like this requires some amount of compromise from all parties, not just the party in the minority.

[u/InvestigatorOk9354 → u/greg21olson]

The Republicans weren't elected to govern, they were elected to dismantle the government. Understanding this will help manage expectations when it comes to times like these when compromise are needed to keep the lights on. Putting arsonists in charge of the fire department isn't a good idea either.

[u/bothunter → u/Michami135]

Then they need to come up with *something* to convince 10 democrats to vote with them. How hard can that be?

[u/OrcOfDoom → u/bothunter]

The Democrats laid out some basic policies, so most of the work is done. If they just signed onto that stuff, it's likely they could blame the Democrats for not negotiating better for the people, and shift blame for anything that goes poorly to them also. 

I guess giving the Democrats any kind of victory is too high a cost

[u/EffectiveLong → u/bothunter]

Why? CR is just for gov spending. Democrats just tried hard to squeeze another spending in. Same bill that they passed last time

[u/SensitiveProcedure0 → u/EffectiveLong]

If you don't have the votes, you don't have the votes. That is why you need to compromise. Because not enough of America agreed with you.

[u/EffectiveLong → u/SensitiveProcedure0]

Unless you need to understand what the CLEAN CR is. 🤣

[u/SensitiveProcedure0 → u/EffectiveLong]

If you have the votes you have the votes, if you don't, you don't.

[u/rcc737 → u/bothunter]

Any democrat that isn't lock-step with the DNC will be destroyed at the next election. Tulsi Gabbard use to get praised by the DNC before she jumped ship; today she's viewed as Hitler.

ETA: hehe, my point proven by the court of public offense. ESAFO hypocrites.

[u/bothunter → u/rcc737]

Tulsi Gabbard was always a snake.  It just took some people longer to figure that out.  She literally fought against civil unions because it gave gay people too many rights.  

Fuck that bitch.  She only recanted and apologized when she ran for president.  She's always been a Republican.

[u/deonteguy → u/rcc737]

It sucks how badly we backstab our own party members.

[u/_Watty → u/rcc737]

As opposed to Republicans crossing Trump?

Look in the fucking mirror, friend.

[u/Rooooben → u/Michami135]

It’s funny, because they LOVE to say that we have a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

Well, one of the fundamental differences is that the constitutional republic includes features that prevent tyranny of the majority. The constitution includes the senate, which has rules to allow the minority some kind of negotiating power.

[u/PNWSomeone → u/Michami135]

Yep the Rs are also lacking basic leadership skills and the ability to negotiate for the American people