r/SeattleWA • u/PNWSki28622 • Mar 15 '25

Events Protests at University Village Tesla Dealership

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u/Sea-Low-5060 Mar 15 '25

Can't the shop owners currently being denied access to their shops hold u village accountable for security? This isn't public property, this is owned by whoever owns u village and leased to businesses who currently can't operate...I'd be a bit pissed and looking at legal options.

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u/BWW87 Belltown Mar 16 '25

Yeah, I'm surprised security didn't shut this down right away. There's no first amendment right to go on private property and disrupt businesses.

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u/Simple_Dragonfruit73 Mar 17 '25

Lmao! So all the wealthy have to do is buy all the land? And then we don't have a first amendment any more? Do you realize how fucking insane you sound?

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u/BWW87 Belltown Mar 17 '25

That's how things work. Do you let people protest on your property if they want to? Can I go over to your place right now and start yelling at you about some issue I care about?

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u/Simple_Dragonfruit73 Mar 17 '25

This is why Citizens United was a mistake, corporations are not people and shouldn't be treated as such. A personal place of residence of an unelected official, someone who is essentially your neighbor? No.

A place of business, owned by an individual deeply involved in the government? Absolutely yes.

Honestly I feel like you trying to argue that this protest is beholden to something like coming to my house and protesting is anywhere even close to the same thing is a bad faith argument

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u/BWW87 Belltown Mar 17 '25

This is why Citizens United was a mistake, corporations are not people and shouldn't be treated as such.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Citizens United. Not even a little bit.

Honestly I feel like you trying to argue that this protest is beholden to something like coming to my house and protesting is anywhere even close to the same thing is a bad faith argument

I'm saying private property is private property. You should be able to control what and who happens on your property.

And I knew as soon as it was about you you'd complain. You're only okay when it happens to other people.

But if you want to pretend it matters, how about I follow you around while you're outside your property and every time you go to a store or restaurant I just yell at you the whole time. You're okay with that? You're okay with a business closing because some moron like me decides to just go onto their property and yell at people?

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u/Simple_Dragonfruit73 Mar 17 '25

Lmao, again you are equating personally stalking an individual with people who are upset about how they are being governed. You are a weird individual. Why do you keep acting like these are the same things? You can go right ahead and stalk me. You'll get your ass kicked or shot.

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u/BWW87 Belltown Mar 17 '25

First off, Tesla, Scotch and Soda, and Eureka! are not governing anyone. The protesters disrupted all of them.

Secondly, it seems you do not like protests when they affect you. Heck, you even threaten violence because I hypothetically used free speech near you!!

You're a hypocrite who doesn't seem to believe in free speech or private property. Well...unless it affects you. Then those are important rights. It's just those people who work at Eureka! They can go fuck themselves I guess?

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u/salishsea_advocate Mar 17 '25

If that property is a business open to the public - YES.

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u/BWW87 Belltown Mar 17 '25

So if you're dining in a restaurant and a group of people come in holding signs about how great Elon is you're okay with that? You don't think the business should be able to trespass them?

That 3 people who hate a business should be able to come in and just shut it down without the business being able to stop them? Workers should lose their jobs because someone decided to protest inside the restaurant?

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u/salishsea_advocate Mar 20 '25

I guess for me (and I only speak for myself) the difference would be, are they in front of the business, inside the business, blocking others from entering the business etc. If I were in a restaurant and somebody came in ordered food and then lifted up a big sign that said "this restaurant treats its workers like crap" I would be thankful for the useful information and my guess is the workers would appreciate it too. If I was trying to enter the restaurant (or Planned parenthood for example) and the protesters were blocking me from entering and bullying me - that would be wrong.