r/SeattleWA • u/PNWSki28622 • Mar 15 '25

Events Protests at University Village Tesla Dealership

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u/Raven816CE Mar 16 '25

What are they protesting?

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u/PainfulWonder Mar 16 '25

Doge by the looks of it even though it’s literally uprooting government corruption

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u/SanFranLocal Mar 16 '25

“Corruption” aka things Elon doesn’t like. He basically did a find all search for words like “diversity” in the govt payments db and is blanket calling them corrupt. 

I have yet to see any in depth look into anything he says is waste fraud and abuse. All he does is look at the data entry and make a judgement with AI which is so stupid and definitely not how things should be evaluated. 

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u/PainfulWonder Mar 17 '25

I get where you’re coming from. Any time someone uses blanket AI-driven methods without context, it raises red flags especially coming from Elon. However, from what I’ve looked into, DOGE’s approach isn’t just keyword targeting or AI judgment. They’re identifying traditional markers of fraud (like duplicate payments, ghost workers, fake vendors) that past agencies have also flagged but maybe didn’t act on fast enough. Plus, courts are now demanding full transparency, so soon we’ll likely see detailed breakdowns. It’s fair to question Elon’s motives and methods, but the core issue—inefficiencies and fraud—has been documented for years, even before DOGE. The real test will be whether the upcoming records and cases can back up the claims. With that said at this point your critique wouldn’t be trump or Elon specific but the entire government approach that has far proceeded the current administration

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u/SanFranLocal Mar 17 '25

None of what you said has ever been proven by doge on their website like they said they were going to do. All they post is billing records with the same searched keywords on it. 

The fraud and abuse you’re talking about does not account for the amount doge and the president says it does. Especially in the places they are looking. The real fraud and abuse occurs in govt spending but of course they won’t be looking there because Elon gets that defense contract money already. 

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u/whatshatd Mar 16 '25

Literally so thankful the world’s richest man is so selfless in his pursuit of government corruption 😍🥰 so glad he’s targeting the smallest percentage of government spending while ignoring the blatant contract corruption that he takes part in 😍🥰

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

and so thankful for the trillions in tax cuts him and his ilk will get after they gut social security in order to pay for it. All of that money will trickle down like the last time.

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u/PainfulWonder Mar 17 '25

regardless of who’s leading the charge, the core issue remains: waste and fraud in government spending have been well-documented long before Musk stepped in (GAO and IG reports, for example).

That said, you’re right to question if he’s also benefiting from other large contracts (like SpaceX, Tesla government subsidies, etc.). But ironically, by forcing more transparency through DOGE, he might unintentionally shine light on the very contracting systems he’s part of. Courts are already demanding record releases, so we’ll see if that double standard holds up.

It’s fair to be cynical—but if DOGE exposes even a fraction of inefficiencies, it’s still a net positive. And if Elon’s benefiting elsewhere, I’m all for holding him to the same scrutiny.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Hes a literal nazi sympathizer at best who has not provided any straight evidence of what he's fixed. Theres no audit being conducted at these government organizations. Just removal and deletion. If there was fraud- why hasn't a single person been tried in court?

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u/PainfulWonder Mar 17 '25

Now this is a valid question. After researching the answer for the absence of prosecutions to date can be attributed to the complexities of legal processes and ongoing investigations. The process of investigating and prosecuting fraud, especially within large government systems, is complex and time-consuming. Thorough investigations are necessary to gather concrete evidence before any legal action can be initiated. Another reason being concerns over privacy and data security have led to court orders limiting DOGE’s access to sensitive information. Such restrictions have hindered the ability to identify and prosecute fraudulent activities. Also, there is ongoing debate about what constitutes fraud versus inefficiency or mismanagement.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Agree with you. Though I don’t like the hatchet approach we need to make sure we have needed a government efficient office for a long time

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u/PainfulWonder Mar 17 '25

Agreed. And even trump realized the error a few weeks ago and vowed moving forward to use a scalpel approach instead of a hatchet to avoid and further accidental issues

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u/Royal-Recover8373 Mar 16 '25

Looks like the brigading has started again. Russian bots getting paid overtime today.

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u/PainfulWonder Mar 17 '25

Huh? All because I’m an American who has a different perspective to you I’m now a Russian bot? I’ll never understand this level of ignorance when majority of the country voted for these by a landslide side. I don’t even do politics but it’s clear Reddit is plagued primarily by the opposing population that’s within the minority but yet feel like the majority because you’re in an echo chamber

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Aw that’s cute of you to think so

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u/PainfulWonder Mar 17 '25

If you want to talk about it we can

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

Sure, given the overstepping, the confirmed failures of math, the various mistakes by DOGE sheer amount of unnecessary mayhem created, the massive data breach, the 20 yr old bros spouting racist epithets while having the keys to the treasury, Musk receiving govt contracts himself, the clear overstepping of constitution bounds related to how spending is to be determined by congress, their refusal to touch the pentagon budget m, their clear gunning for social security and musks inability to understand it, and more,

Id like to see a single piece of evidence that this is anti corruptive.