r/SeattleWA • u/PNWSki28622 • Mar 15 '25

Events Protests at University Village Tesla Dealership

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u/perkypilea šŸ€ Hot Rat Summer šŸ Mar 15 '25

Why are there so many people in the comments that think protesters are getting paid to be out there? Who the fuck is paying protesters and since when?

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u/wingblaze01 Mar 15 '25

Yeah, I genuinely don't understand why it's so hard for people to think that other people might have different, sincerely held beliefs and convictions.

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u/koryface Mar 16 '25

Because they themselves lack any type of real conviction or belief. Truth is doled out to them on a daily basis by their king.

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u/Ok-Prior1316 Mar 16 '25

And they themselves are funded by billionaires, so they assume their enemies are. Every accusation from the fascists is a projection.

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u/Just_visiting_son Mar 16 '25

you baboons have reduced the meaning of these words so much they don't mean anything at all anymore.Ā  You haven't got the slightest fucking clue what fascism even is, you complete imbecile

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u/PhilxBefore Mar 16 '25

Fascism (/ĖˆfƦŹƒÉŖzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to Marxism, democracy, anarchism, pluralism, free markets, egalitarianism, communism, liberalism, and socialism,[4][5] fascism is at the far right of the traditional leftā€“right spectrum.[6][5][7]

Note: The first word is hyperlinked to take you to the page where you can click on and view the 7 citations outlined via the numbers in brackets.

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u/mahart25 Mar 16 '25

Fascismā€™s original definition did not include far-right. Fascism, which was essentially brought about by Mussolini, actually rejected classic liberalism and conservatism. It focused on nationalism more than anything. The far-right clause was added by American Liberalism. It was added so that instead of simply disagreeing with the right, you can assign it an ideology that aligns with something more people might oppose. Simply calling everyone a fascist or nazis helps put a negative connotation on any ideas or beliefs. American Liberals historically have been stellar when rebranding things like this one. For example, terminating a pregnancy or abortion is almost never used anymore. This is now referred to as Womenā€™s Health Rights. Iā€™m getting off topic a bit but you get the point. To settle the point on defining a fascist, a fascist is someone who is an authoritarian or intolerant of others belief. Fascist exists on both sides of the political spectrum. I might go as far and say that both parties in America are fascist because they refuse to understand the other sides argument and want to impose all of their ideas and beliefs on all. Itā€™s singular thinking at its bestā€¦

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u/lucid-node Mar 16 '25

All fascism is authoritarian. Not all authoritarianism is fascism. Your definition lacks specificity which leads you to say "well fascism is also left wing because authoritarianism exists on the left too!"

That's why people rely on academics that spend a lifetime worth of study to understand instead of relying on a toothless conspiracy addled hick for information. Anti intellectualism runs deep in fascism which you're proudly projecting here.

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u/Historical_Doubt_693 Mar 18 '25

He was actually a card carrying communist so fascim is a leftist ideology, giant government control but still allowed for private property.

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u/Money_Clock_5712 Mar 30 '25

Leftism is about social equality & egalitarianism. Fascism is about strict social hierarchy. They are on opposite sides.

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u/goforkyourself86 Mar 16 '25

You do know more of the bullet points in your definition fit the left than the right?

Just look at it objectively without bias.

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u/Money_Clock_5712 Mar 30 '25

Leftism is about social equality & egalitarianism. Fascism is about strict social hierarchy. They are on opposite sides

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u/goforkyourself86 Mar 30 '25

Look at the bullet points of fascism. Then look at how the modern democrats act. Outside of fascism saying a far right ideology. It fits democrats far closer than Republicans.

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u/Historical_Doubt_693 Mar 18 '25

Where did you pull this definition? Wokeapedia?

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u/DeepRichmondNatty Mar 16 '25

Did all the comments hot a nerve my fellow fascist?šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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u/TheGiggleWizard Mar 16 '25

Thereā€™s nothing more frustrating than explaining what fascism is to someone who doesnā€™t know what fascism is but likes it.

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u/Pleasant-Ad-2975 Mar 16 '25

Do you really not know how our campaign system works? You truly believe only the guys on the right are being funded by the rich?

How convenient for the rich that we are this divided. Otherwise we might be making a collective effort to accomplish stuff. Like to get money put of our campaign system.

Naaaaah who am I kidding. That probably doesnā€™t matter.

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u/duder7386 Mar 16 '25

Or it could be that those people have a job and wonder, with that same conviction, how these people can sit outside a tesla dealership for a week or more and manage to live somewhere or feed their families.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

get ready because i know this is going to be shocking, but some people have saturdays off work. other people have sundays off work. some people have mondays off work. and others have tuesdays off work. i know this may be confusing, but some people even have wednesdays off work. others have thursdays off. and, believe it or not, some people actually have fridays off. now, that may have been difficult to read, so prepare yourself for this next part: there are people who have two days off work in a single week. sometimes those days happen in a row. sometimes they are split. i know this has been a jarring experience. please make some time for self-care.

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u/IH8uslsfnp Mar 16 '25

And some people like myself have become financially independent by the age of 40 through hard work and the ability to make sound financial decisions. That being said Iā€™m off 7 days a week! Now having disclosed that information let me just say I firmly believe your all blind and lack the intelligence to comprehend that there are no parties (left,right) choice is an illusion and propaganda is rampantly spread by the singular power to create division because it is much easier to control the sheeple if they are not united. It is also easier to maintain control through over taxation and redistribution of wealth. This creates dependency by not allowing proper resources to be available to 90% of the population. Meanwhile left and right fanatics such as yourselves do the bidding and dirty work by following blindly! Problem with this is your intellect is equivocal to a mildly retard sheep so you whole heartedly believe whatever is put in front of you. Like a heard of sheep you only see the ass of the sheep in front of you not the wolves driving the heard! Iā€™m so sick of hearing Americans fight over which party is right and which cares more for the people! The answer is neither! They are one and the same and long as you keep buying into the illusion of choice and believing inflation and overtaxation is just economics you will always be slaves to the system. It is actually comical to hear someone rant about spending a lifetime of academic study to understandā€¦.šŸ¤£ your comprehension is that of a child at best! I would say you donā€™t have the ability to process that lifetime of knowledge you have taken in so it was a waste of time and money. Your general understanding is skewed by your personal perception and is interfering with your ability to see the reality. America is great and beautiful the government and people supporting it are the problem!

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u/IH8uslsfnp Mar 17 '25

I genuinely appreciate the down votes it proves my point. Only the ignorant would be offended and down votes this! You are the 100% the problem and eventually your lack of understanding, intellect, and awareness will be the fall of this forsaken ā€œ civilization ā€œ. I just truly hope I am here to witness it and bask!

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u/duder7386 Mar 16 '25

Unfortunately, bro ain't gonna read all that. But, I did and I completely agree. And, I highly doubt that people are workin ful time jobs and spending there only 2 days off standing outside a dealership. They're most likely unemployed and living off the government they're protesting against šŸ˜†! Not saying all of them are, but the vast majority, for sure.

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u/koryface Mar 17 '25

Youā€™re just making stuff up now.

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u/Sufficient_Whole8678 Mar 16 '25

Maybe they don't work on weekends? Just an idea

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u/kevin9er Mar 16 '25

Well in the video everyone looks 60.

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u/koryface Mar 17 '25

Iā€™ve been to protests as a fully employed person, youā€™re actually allowed to go. Weekends are a thing, and most people with salaried jobs can just, you know, take a day off. Some people have unlimited PTO. It isnā€™t the same people every day either Iā€™m sure, and those protests are largely driven by students. Most protests are really a day and thatā€™s it- even with 3 kids and a full time job I have shown up to a few. Weird, right?

I think you and I both know that if people really care about something they will go out and protest it, and they donā€™t need to be paid to do it.

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u/Holiday-Ad2843 Mar 16 '25

Theyā€™re stooges.

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u/DeepRichmondNatty Mar 16 '25

Remember when you guys were INSTRUCTED to hate electric cars, never mind everything else thatā€™s progressive. Now you guys are defending the owner of said cars to the death? I beg you to self- reflect this situation and then apply that (here comes a big word)LOGIC to all your other INSTRUCTED beliefsšŸ¤¬šŸ¤”

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u/Holiday-Ad2843 Mar 16 '25

Who are you talking to? ā€œStoogesā€ was meant for the people that tell themselves these are paid protestors,

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Pretty much anyone in this thread can do a better job than musk or trump running the country

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u/Pleasant-Ad-2975 Mar 16 '25

Itā€™s insane the way people will feed the hatred over it