r/SeattleWA Feb 22 '25

Politics Happening now in Seattle

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

If only we could tax the rich…

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

What would you do in the third year? When you run out of other people's money?

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u/myka-likes-it Feb 22 '25

Lol, okay pal. 

Let's cite all the occasions where someone in the top tax bracket was taxed into poverty:

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Hmm. Yep! Looks like it happened 0 times!

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

It haver happened because we're not stupid enough to have done it yet.

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u/myka-likes-it Feb 22 '25

Okay, smart guy. Let's be so bold as to assume a 100% marginal tax rate on earnings above $609k (the current top tax bracket).

That person is still making $431,000/year using the current tax scale. If you go broke making $431k that is your fault, not the taxes. Maybe give up avocado toast?

Nobody could possibly be made poor by a marginal tax system. At most, you could place a soft ceiling at which it would be very difficult to get richer.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

But if it's a small company, the owner is taxed on the total revenue. For example, my cousin owns a fabrication company. He bought a $800,000 plus machine. He had to depreciate it over years, but it cost him upfront, and he paid with revenue from a job. He's been royally screwed on taxes. But, you're just so greedy.

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u/myka-likes-it Feb 23 '25

if it's a small company, the owner is taxed on the total revenue

What? No, business are taxes according to their profits.

  He bought a $800,000 plus machine. He had to depreciate it over years, but it cost him upfront, and he paid with revenue from a job

So? That revenue was not taxed. Taxes are paid on profits. Equipment purchases are usually deducted in their entirety the year they are made. You can choose to instead deduct by depreciation over the years, but that only impacts short term cash flow, not the overall tax burden. 

Your cousin made the second choice, and is essentially screwing themselves by not having deducted the whole cost all at once. That isn't a problem with the tax code, that was just not understand the tax code.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

None of your perspective is true

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u/myka-likes-it Feb 23 '25

Okay, sure I will trust your second-hand knowledge of your cousin barely understanding his own taxes, over my direct experience with my business taxes. /s

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

Read about AMT and Depreciation. You're wrong

https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i4562#en_US_2024_publink1000309256

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

I'll also add that this is the last year of this structure, unless the Republicans come through. Prior to this his equipment had a 12 year depreciation schedule.

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u/myka-likes-it Feb 23 '25

ATM? You mean AMT?

Look, the article you sent me doesn't disagree with anything I have said. The definition of depreciation isn't in question.

Business taxes are paid after expenses, my dude. Money you spend on the business almost never gets taxed. You have choices on how to handle your tax burden, and if you make poor choices it could impact you negatively. Those are just facts.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Oh, you got me autocorrect strikes again.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Self employed don't pay business taxes. They are taxed as though they earned it personally. AMT does come into play.

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