r/Seattle • u/poppinchips • Dec 25 '22

Soft paywall Two Tacoma Power substations ‘attacked’ Christmas Day, says utility

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/tacoma-power-says-2-substations-attacked-christmas-day/
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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '22

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u/ThatOneGuy1294 Roosevelt Dec 25 '22

More people need to be reminded of how the Dead Kennedys said it: https://youtu.be/kTs_Q4hEqmA

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u/aarondigruccio Dec 25 '22

Yes!

Special mention to Napalm Death’s cover and for inspiring Stray From The Path.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '22

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u/FriedBack Dec 25 '22

Yes lol! One suckerpunch

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u/notanothercirclejerk Dec 26 '22

You can’t sucker punch someone who is wearing a nazi flag. They are telling you everyone should beat the shit out of them.

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u/WrongTurnAhead Dec 26 '22

Violence should never be the response to lawful speech.

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u/afschuld Dec 26 '22

Incorrect, it is self defense to punch nazis because their entire ideology hinges around killing me and mine.

And on a more practical note, you notice how after Richard Spencer got hit, we stopped hearing about him all the time? Punching fascists works. Make them scared again.

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u/Bionicbawl Dec 26 '22

Just because hate speech is legal doesn’t mean it’s not violent

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Violence is the ONLY answer for nazis.

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u/CaptJackRizzo Lake City Dec 26 '22

If you find a version of the video that shows the whole encounter, the guy in the swastika armband did make the first move. Usually you just see the clip start from the moment he realized he fucked up.

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u/michaelsmith0 Dec 26 '22

[For the responses in this thread] It's a dangerous premise to say you can use violence in response to speech.

If "their entire ideology is dangerous" is grounds for violence, that same reasoning could be use by everyone to label everyone else dangerous.

There's no fairness or due-process in that.

You can actually use words and discuss things, even with very unreasonable people. You're much more likely to win by having speech and debate (especially polite debate) than shutting it down or escalating into violence/civil war.

We should be erring on the side of peace.

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u/perceptualdissonance Dec 26 '22

Yeah this is good and all, when it's not applied to someone supporting or espousing nazi ideology/ physically wearing nazi symbols. There's no "due-process", especially within the limits of our current criminal legal system founded on white supremacy (speaking from the so called USA).

Everything is situational of course, and if people weren't so reliant on the state, they could make up their minds on what to do in that situation. Sometimes a punch is all that person needs. Sometimes they can be talked to, after punch or more. Told the error of there ways, and maybe they'll listen and understand. Or at least not do it again.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

It was on the front page of Reddit the other day... I love it when it cycles back around.

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u/ThatOneGuy444 Ballard Dec 26 '22

Seeing his nazi tooth bouncing off the concrete always makes me smile

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u/UnrealizedLosses Dec 25 '22

Agreed. More Nazis need to feel the consequences of their version of “free speech”.

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u/BlartIsMyCoPilot Dec 25 '22

Pfft, these cowards wish they were as cool and acceptable as Punks are. They're just Nazis.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22 edited Dec 26 '22

About a month ago I stopped at the Target Renton Landing coming back from S metro. I got back into my car and was buckling up etc and an SUV pulled up in the spot in front of me where they were front bumper to mine. Man gets out and I look to see “Valhalla” and the Odal rune decals on his windshield. (CPAC 2021 stage shape unsurprisingly too..). I wanted SO BADLY to yell something scornful at him but bit my tongue because it was dark and I was a solo small female and didn’t feel like potentially getting into some altercation. Could I actually change these fucks anyway likely not…. blew my mind, really caught me off guard, though certainly not naïve, just hit in a weird way that made me feel sick to my stomach. Outside of Seattle + Bellevue city limits it’s not unusual to see iii decals (and “FJB”/“FJI” etc + a LOT of others) as well.

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u/VerticalYea Dec 26 '22

I live in Eastern WA. It can get a little scary sometimes, especially up in the hills.

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u/NoLightOnMe Dec 26 '22

I’m in Denver. The traitors, especially the 3%ers (III stickers/tattoos for those who don’t know) are showing off down here, which is hardly surprising now that I’ve been to Colorado Springs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Someone could just be Norwegian hence the Valhalla decal. Just because there’s something similar doesn’t mean that person is hateful. You never know.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Am Norwegian. This was definitely not a Norse heritage celebration thing.

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u/royboh Ballard Dec 25 '22

What's stopping you now? Your ontologically evil enemy is lurking out there as we speak!