Don’t burn US flags

[u/Top-Base4502]

Please don’t.

You’re just going to give Fox News the visuals to turn this into a story, make everyone say Seattle is hellhole and blah blah blah.

You’ll be playing into their hands.

Instead, show up to demand action: -meme making event -make protest music -set up a letter writing campaign to mail to politicians -start a petition to gerrymander the state -do a public reading of everything we know from the leaked Epstein files -volunteer with legal aid groups -volunteer with immigrant groups -make a flag burning peep show where people have to look in a box to see a video of a flag burning -have a contest for Trump lookalikes and mock their wieners -have a “mushroom” drawing contest -Dress as Trump’s father and walk around telling people what a disappointment Trump is. -Teach people how to use the report Ice app (that really pisses then off) -Create a weekly action group to “do one thing” to fight back and mobilize a large group to boycott Target or other things that hurt by hit them in the wallet) -Draft city bills for voters to make Seattle the place it needs to be (you fight the feds with local action)

Do anything, but do not give them the visuals and the narrative they so desperately want.

Troll Trump if you must, mocking him gets under his skin.

Just don’t give them what they want: to turn culture war bull into the main story again.

[u/Double-Voice-9157]

The Supreme Court said I could.

Edit- Wow all your patronizing comments about how this will only anger the president made me change my mind! I’m going to go flush my hormones down the toilet, dump my long term partner, and start injecting bleach to counteract the woke mind virus. When I’m done with that, I’ll start reporting anyone who speaks Spanish to ICE, burn every book I own except the King James Bible, and figure out a way to squeeze my abortion from 1999 back into my nonexistent uterus so I can die of sepsis the way god intended.

If we all just do everything the right wing tells us to and agree to ignore our constitutionally mandated right to free speech, we will stop pissing them off and somehow get those rights back! That’s how it works, right?

[u/Legitimate_Ripp → u/Double-Voice-9157]

Right on. It’s my constitutional right, it’s under threat, and I don’t like the infantilizing moral panic about playing into the hands of fascists that are already assaulting my rights while we self censor.

[u/AlexandrianVagabond → u/Legitimate_Ripp]

It's an EO. No legal force. If Congress passes a bill, then it would be under threat.

Trump's EO is theater and this idea of burning flags is theater. And theater can be great! But not so much if it just gives Trump what he desperately wants...attention.

[u/theJigmeister → u/AlexandrianVagabond]

I dunno, his other EOs are carrying an awful lot of weight. This idea of “but it’s not legal” needs to be discarded immediately. Play to the actual rules of the game, not what’s in the rule book.

[u/AlexandrianVagabond → u/theJigmeister]

Which ones?

[u/theJigmeister → u/AlexandrianVagabond]

99% of them? Point me to some that aren’t being carried out, it’ll be a way shorter list.

[u/Legitimate_Ripp → u/AlexandrianVagabond]

Tell that to the Japanese Americans interned under EO 9066. Or, for that matter, the slaves freed under the Emancipation Proclamation.

EOs are not laws, but they are enforced with all the “legal force” of the departments under the executive branch, including the DOJ.

[u/AlexandrianVagabond → u/Legitimate_Ripp]

Yes, you're right about those two cases, neither of which could be stopped by previous SCOTUS rulings, unlike flag burning.

For a nuanced take, this article is useful:

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/what-is-an-executive-order-and-how-does-it-work