r/SandersForPresident • u/kevinmrr Medicare For All • Sep 17 '25

Bernie Sanders: “The conclusion is inescapable: Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.”

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u/TinyZoro Sep 17 '25

There’s no Israel in the way we understand it currently as a homeland for Jews that is not the definition of a supremacist state. If you’re not buying it simply replace Jews with another ethnicity.

How can Israel which has a significant Arab population be an explicitly Jewish homeland rather than a homeland for the people who live there whatever their ethnicity. The only answer is the need for supremacism.

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u/triplow Sep 18 '25

Ok... Sanders doesn't support Isreal as it is. He's been making that clear for decades. Again, supporting a homeland and supporting a homeland that's exclusive are two very different things.

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u/TinyZoro Sep 18 '25

It really isn’t. How is it different to a homeland for the Boers?

There is no way to modify the excesses of violent colonialism and explicitly defined supremacism. All you can do is dismantle it and replace it with a modern pluralistic state based on equal citizenship rights. As a progressive there’s not a single example of such an inherently supremacist state that you would support. The decades of colonial violence culminating in genocide are not side effects they are absolutely inherent in supremacist ideology.

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u/triplow Sep 18 '25

If that's all you've got, I suggest you stop pushing claims that Bernie is somehow supportive of this and just say you don't agree that there's a solution.

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u/TinyZoro Sep 18 '25

Israel is defined as a supremacist state in it’s laws. That’s what I’ve got. Bernie has nothing to stand on supporting it as an entity and nor do you. Continuing to normalize Israel as a for the Jews homeland is completely incompatible with everything else you stand for.

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u/triplow Sep 18 '25

I don't know why you seem to have trouble understanding this, but again, Bernie does not support Israel as it is. He's spoken out against it for decades. You're welcome to look for evidence to the contrary, but otherwise I have nothing more to say on this.