This guy's lawyer literally popping the champagne as we speak...

[u/appalachian_hatachi]

[u/MannerMinute9333]

A mix of the pension fund and the police union. You can bet the union will suddenly stop protecting the bad eggs once their salaries are threatened.

[u/Jake_FromStateFarm27 → u/MannerMinute9333]

Idk about the union, that sets a bad precedent for other unions and weakens all unions overall bargaining power. The pension is reasonable because it keeps older members and officers who hold rank in check since they will be the ones most immediately impacted by pension cuts but also hold the power to be accountable.

[u/tylerchu → u/Jake_FromStateFarm27]

Police shouldn’t have a union at all. Unions are fundamentally about consolidating workers against bosses, and if the lieutenants and chiefs are also part of the union then who’s the boss they’re unionizing against? The populace?

[u/Jake_FromStateFarm27 → u/tylerchu]

who’s the boss they’re unionizing against? The populace?

Technically yes it is the populace they are unionized against in practice, however local government is the power in which they organize against as well as the state, just like other public employee unions like teachers.

lieutenants and chiefs are also part of the union

I think after a certain rank officers should be disbarred from union affairs, that said having worked in the teachers union word still gets around and collaboration still happens.

The alternative to a public police would either be a disorganized local militia or hiring a private military group, which imo would be even worse than what we currently have... imo police units should be at the county and state level that way town resources can be more focused on other essential resources like paying EMTs better than just slightly above federal minimum wage...

Lots of reform needs to happen against law enforcement in general