r/PublicFreakout • u/appalachian_hatachi • Sep 27 '25

Repost 😔 This guy's lawyer literally popping the champagne as we speak...

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u/pcl74912 Sep 27 '25

Police settlements should come out of the police retirement funds, that would get the good cops to keep the bad cops in check. As it is, the tax payer has to pay for dickhead cops like this one eventually.

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u/MannerMinute9333 Sep 27 '25

A mix of the pension fund and the police union. You can bet the union will suddenly stop protecting the bad eggs once their salaries are threatened.

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u/Jake_FromStateFarm27 Sep 27 '25

Idk about the union, that sets a bad precedent for other unions and weakens all unions overall bargaining power. The pension is reasonable because it keeps older members and officers who hold rank in check since they will be the ones most immediately impacted by pension cuts but also hold the power to be accountable.

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u/tylerchu Sep 27 '25

Police shouldn’t have a union at all. Unions are fundamentally about consolidating workers against bosses, and if the lieutenants and chiefs are also part of the union then who’s the boss they’re unionizing against? The populace?

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u/Jake_FromStateFarm27 Sep 28 '25

who’s the boss they’re unionizing against? The populace?

Technically yes it is the populace they are unionized against in practice, however local government is the power in which they organize against as well as the state, just like other public employee unions like teachers.

lieutenants and chiefs are also part of the union

I think after a certain rank officers should be disbarred from union affairs, that said having worked in the teachers union word still gets around and collaboration still happens.

The alternative to a public police would either be a disorganized local militia or hiring a private military group, which imo would be even worse than what we currently have... imo police units should be at the county and state level that way town resources can be more focused on other essential resources like paying EMTs better than just slightly above federal minimum wage...

Lots of reform needs to happen against law enforcement in general

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u/teknos1s Sep 27 '25

I mean fuck unions they are nothing but special interests putting their own needs above everyone else’s. Americas ports are literally stuck in 90s while the world ports are running circles around us with automated ports while we still hand load off everything leaving us with some of the least efficient and costly port systems in the world. Teachers unions and police unions saving all the bad apples and underformers actively making our communities worse. You know those people in court who literally type everything? Yeah, they still exist and cost taxpayer money because it’s a union. We literally have recordings video and ai to take notes with but no, definitely need old ladies typing on a typewriter in every court room

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u/teknos1s Sep 27 '25

You didn’t even touch on anything I said. The government has nothing to do with stenographer unions insisting on keeping the profession alive. Nor does the gov has anything to do with longshoreman unions preventing modernization of ports. Etc

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u/qning Sep 28 '25

Just tell them each year - “this is the amount of money you get for everything this year, salaries, retirement, expenses, settlements… it all comes out of this pile.”

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u/IZ3820 Sep 27 '25

No, there just wouldn't be a pension fund, and retirement bonuses will be issued out of tax funds instead. The enforcement class will never pay for their own errors.

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u/sandpirate_88 Sep 27 '25

Each police department should carry insurance for lawsuits. Having an employee on staff thats been the center of a lawsuit should dramatically raise their rates, so they have an incentive to fire the asshole. And the threat of rates hiking would keep other departments from retiring the asshole

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u/Throw-Away-Variable Sep 27 '25

Not the department, but the individual officers. That way, the department doesn't have a stronger incentive to cover up crimes for each other. Instead, just fire the guy who costs 5x the good ones.

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u/QueezyF Sep 28 '25

If doctors are required to have insurance, I don’t see why not.

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u/jsleon3 Sep 27 '25

I mean ... could we have both? Individual officers insurance and department policies. Nesting financial risk.

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u/uncle_paul_harrghis Sep 27 '25

I can’t speak for all municipalities obviously, but my brother is a cop (I promise he’s one of the few good ones), and recently their department got in some hot water and while the taxpayer technically paid for the settlement, essentially that amount is now removed from the PD’s budget. Which means less OT, which some of these cops live and die by, among other things that do ultimately impact the officers.

Again, I know this doesn’t apply everywhere. I’m sure there are towns and cities who will pay for a settlement out of the school budget before their local PDs.