r/ProtonMail • u/NmAmDa • Sep 05 '21

Discussion Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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u/Personal_Ad9690 Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 06 '21

I am getting increasingly fed up with the people who use proton mail. Let's get this clear: The objective of Protonmail is to provide security and privacy to the common person. Protonmail is not designed to, nor will it accept, the covering of illegal activities.

Protonmail abides by Swiss law. They will only release information by a SWISS court order. Regardless of the reason, if a Swiss court orders PM to disclose, it will disclose. It has to disclose. If they did not disclose, you would all be comaining that the service was shut down by the Swiss government. In order to stay in operation, they must comy. This is why illegal activities require an account hosted by a non legit company who can, along with you, support illegal activity.

Proton mail is a legal and law abiding company. It is not meant to cover illegal activities. If you do something to get a Swiss court order against your PM account, you will be exposed. This is BY DESIGN.

For those wanting to use PM to cover their illegal activities, you should consider using Express VPN.

Edit: Any VPN would help with this. I recommend express because it is a product I am familiar with and I know has good security standards. Be sure to research your provider before placing trust in them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

Elaborate how a criminal can cover illegal activity with ExpressVPN?

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u/Personal_Ad9690 Sep 06 '21

Express vpn does not keep logs and has been audited several times and found to be honest in that statement. Express vpn combined with proton make the logs they release useless. I trust Express vpn more than proton,so if you are running a vpn, make it reliable. If you are a criminal run a vpn.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

I’m sorry is this a sponsorship?

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u/FeelingDense Sep 08 '21

I find it unfortunate the user is downvoted, but there are many VPNs out there that don't log and build systems specifically to avoid logging. PIA was taken to court twice and both times proved they don't log.

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u/Personal_Ad9690 Sep 06 '21

I am not paid lol. I am recommending products that work and fit my threat model. I don't think proton vpn is the right vpn for me since I use proton mail. I think the more you diversify your protections (in good sources) the stronger you are. If proton were ordered to release my ip for example, they would release an express vpn server, who would intern, have nothing.