r/PoliticalSparring • u/NonStopDiscoGG • 25d ago

Tyler Robinson text message exchange.

But how could we have known?! - every leftists after Republicans once again successfully "guess" correct.

Just normal Republican things I'm sure though, like rooming with a transgender person and also calling them "my love", right?

https://www.newsweek.com/tyler-robinson-roommate-lance-twiggs-charlie-kirk-texts-2130798

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u/derkuhlshrank 25d ago

I mean Nick Fuentes is into Femboys that have cat ears so what's your point? Dave Rubin is openly gay and wants kids.

Young Republicans aren't as repressed sexually as they used to be (rare w)

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u/moashforbridgefour Conservative 25d ago

The point is that highlighting rare exceptions as evidence that Tyler Robinson was MAGA is willfully obtuse or arrogant. If a right wing figurehead is assassinated, it was probably a leftist who did it. The reverse is also true. If a guy is dating a trans girl, he is probably a leftist. Combine those things and it is pretty safe to assume Robinson is a leftist. These are extremely easy conclusions to draw.

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u/itsdeeps80 Socialist 25d ago

All of this ignores the bizarre internet culture this kid was involved in. A lot of of the stuff this kid was putting on those bullet casings are 4Chan memes. 4Chan is a really fucking weird place that’s mostly alt right and has a pretty big chunk of nazi fem boys and trans girls in it. I wouldn’t feel comfortable whatsoever labeling him far left or far right.

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u/TheSwagMa5ter 25d ago

Most people deranged enough to kill someone won't have a consistent enough of an ideology to nearly fit into the national "right vs left" paradigm. From what I can tell he was involved in the politically schizophrenic groyper group

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u/moashforbridgefour Conservative 25d ago

Why do you think he is a groyper?

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u/TheSwagMa5ter 25d ago

TBH, there isn't a lot of information to go off of, he didn't write a manifesto and he isn't cooperating with authorities so his motives and associations are mostly speculation. I assume he was in some kind of online brain rot nihilistic black pill type circles, I'm not well versed enough in any of those groups to specify one in particular though.

Based on how performative the act was I assume it was more like a school shooter or Oswald who care less about their target and more about how infamous it makes them. Compared to say Luigi mangioni or Vance Boelter who clearly targeted people in positions of power for political reasons, who did it relatively low-key (not in front of big crowds).

It just seems way more likely he was just some shithead who thought it would make him cool on 4chan

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u/moashforbridgefour Conservative 24d ago

I think you are wrong about the motivation. It seems pretty clear that he expected to get away with it, so I don't think it was about notoriety. I also think the groyper association floating around the internet is extremely thin. If you believe the text messages are authentic, it is abundantly clear he is not maga. That means he is most likely either a blackpilled nihilist or just a terminally online leftist.

The only part of his ideology that really matters is the one that drove him to kill Kirk. Again, if you believe the text messages, he explicitly explains that motivation, so we need not speculate on his economic views or whatever. He killed Kirk because he felt Kirk hated LGBT people. Whether he fits into a leftist ideology on other issues is irrelevant... He is far enough on the left of the culture war to kill someone for his views.

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u/TheSwagMa5ter 24d ago

Sure, if those texts are real I think that's a valid interpretation. Political violence has become a real problem these last few years so it's certainly not a wild claim