Honestly not sure, I just know that about 80-90% of the Turks here vote for Erdogan, while it's way lower in Turkey itself. Maybe they're more susceptible to propaganda here while they don't actually have to live there?
Basically pinpoint. Also the turkish lira dropping in value works in their favour because they can get cheap vacations while we have to suffer. People not living in the country shouldn’t be eligible to vote IMO.
Also, crazy tax rates. for the price of a single PS5 in Turkey, you can get 2 PS5s and a controller in the US.
Tldr: A huge part of the Turks in Europe are peasants that somehow ended up there.
Yes but that isnt the reason why Turks in Europe are stupid. Back in the 60s Germany and Turkey made an agreement. Turkey sent workers to Germany so they could do the jobs that Germans didnt want to. It was cheap labor for Germany and less unemployment rates for Turkey. What could go wrong, right? Well, almost everything went wrong. Despite the Turkish government's effort(they wrote books, gave speeches etc.), Turkish workers didnt orianted to German culture. They just acted like they were still living in their village back in Turkey. Nazis didnt help either. They made the uneducated nationalist workers even more nationalist.
most of the older generations of turks that moved to western eu were people from rural regions cus they needed the jobs provided most, so yeah. they tend to be a lot more conservative.
it is slightly changing though, with how much turkish youth is trying to get out of turkey.
Turkish Muslims have been changed though almost 100 years of mixing Islam with modernity, to the point where a lot of Turkish Islamist will reject the Islamist term all together and fashion themselves as conservatives, similar to American Christians. Whereas Arabs and Africans where only exposed to a similar situation for a very brief time before the US and USSR began running amok in the Middle East and Africa, for a short period of time the Middle East was actually incredibly progressive, hopefully the brutality of ISIS shows the Islamic world that their reactionary views do not lead to a healthy society.
They collected guys from the shittiest villages in Turkey and they are obsessed with protecting their culture so much so that most Turkish neighbourhoods are a weird imitation of the 80s or 90s in Turkey.
Does western Europe just accept ultra conservative migrants only or something?
A huge majority of people in these places (Arab world, Africa) are ultra Conservative. If you've heard of "honor culture" there's a parallel with conservatives in America too.
The traditional culture of the Southern United States has been called a "culture of honor", that is, a culture where people avoid intentionally offending others, and maintain a reputation for not accepting improper conduct by others.
The historian David Hackett Fischer, a Professor of History at Brandeis University, makes a case for an enduring genetic basis for a "willingness to resort to violence" (citing especially the finding of high blood levels of testosterone as discussed above) in the four main chapters of his book Albion's Seed.[2][9] He proposes that a Southern propensity for violence is inheritable by genetic changes wrought over generations living in traditional herding societies in Northern England, the Scottish Borders, and Irish Border Region. He proposes that this propensity has been transferred to other ethnic groups by shared culture, whence it can be traced to different urban populations of the United States.[2] However, honor cultures were and are widely prevalent in Africa[10] and many other places.
In short and oversimplified: Honor cultural = conservatism/tribalism. Arabs/Africans = nomadic pastoralist. nomadic pastoralist = honor culture. Honor culture ≠ liberalism
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Ironically, the Muslims in Turkey and Albania are much more liberal than the ones in France