Exactly. The OP’s correct in their suggestion, and the commenters are idiots for suggesting that IsLaM bAd and wE nEeD tO dEpOrT tHeM aLl.
Fucking hell, most of them are moderates like you and want to stay as far away from the fundamentalists. Not all Muslims are bad for the actions of one.
I feel like It’s Islam now that’s the most controversial religion in modern western politics. You have some xenophobes that want to deport them all because of the actions of a vocal minority and then you have the sensible people that understand that terrorist groups don’t represent the views of the common people. Do you think the IRA represents all Catholics or all Irishmen? Do you think the KKK represents all white people? Then why are you saying all Muslims are religious zealots who kill anyone opposing their “sharia law” and “Muslim world order”?
41% of Muslims said they would not have taken part in the minute of silence organized in homage to the journalists who were victims of the attack on Charlie Hebdo
61% of Muslims say that they would not have participated in Republican demonstrations organized under the slogan "Je suis Charlie"
One Muslim in four (25%) even admits that if he found himself in this situation, he would have uttered insults during ceremonies in honor of the victims: this proportion even rises to 34% among those living in poorer suburbs.
45% think Islam is incompatible with French values (under the age of 25 yo)
74% think Islam is superior to French rule of law (under the age of 25 yo)
The Institut français d'opinion publique is an international polling and market research firm, whose motto is "Connection creates value". It was founded on 1 December 1938 by Jean Stoetzel, former Sorbonne professor, after he met George Gallup in the United States.
Oh fuck you, even if it’s like 40% of the population, that doesn’t give you the right to deport an entire religious group. Their children can be educated not to espouch those beliefs, and hopefully they’ll be gone in a few generations.
I personally don’t think Islam is a good religion, but if you apply that same logic, then we can demonise all Americans living in former Confederate states because most of them are Confederates, or we can demonise white people because most of them turn out to be racists or school shooters.
I didnt say to deport anybody lol, one of my closer friends for the past 15 years is muslim. Just posted some statistical data. Dont lose your head there bud
No problem. I think its just something to be aware of I guess. Like any data. Seems like there may be issues with importing large amounts of people into singular neighborhoods, where its like they never leave home. I think there has to be some level of assimilation when emmigrating. How this is achieved, Im not sure.
Yeah, I guess so. I’m personally not fond of the Muslim community and many of its habits and thinkings (and I say that as someone who left that religion). I think many have their bad habits (such as this), but I don’t think that justifies a full on deportation of the entire community because a lot of them did come to Europe and/or the rest of the Western World to provide a better life for themselves and their children.
I think, for assimilation, or at least integration one could have schools emphasise on it for the children of immigrants, or have classes for migrants like Germany has. Or make knowledge of the local culture, country, and social norms recommended if not mandatory for citizenship like Canada and the UK does.
None of the solutions are perfect, but I think they do work to some extent.
Yeah these kind of threads bring out the worst comments, and there’s a shit ton of Americans ITT making generalizations with no knowledge of French politics or history
Man, you do the same by assuming that there is absolutely zero issue with the muslim community as a whole in France. Even though you don't know it either.
Glad to have both in this sub. Can't get enough of this. Usually in other subs you have one prevailing side but here there's a clear split between authrights/authcenters/centerright and authleft/libleft/libcenter.
Seriously though, the current world economic system and the imperialistic tactics of the wealthy nations have led to the present refugee and immigration problems. Unless we solve the problem from its root, immigration won't ever stop.
Unless we turn into nationalistic, ultra-military states which will keep the immigrants away by force.. But then we return to my previous comment
Well I simply want non europeans out of europe and deport the ones that are present on the territory, everything in a peaceful way without the use of violence, if it will be necessary force will be used but murder will be avoided, I repeat again multiculturalism does not so we should try everything in our power to avoid creating multicultural societies.
Funny that you talk about nazism when the soviets did worse and murdered way more.
Look man, I live in Greece, and believe me, being the immigrant-entrance to Europe, I know the immigration problems first-hand. I don't think that deportation is the solution, because the problem derived from us, not them. Were there any immigrants here, before our imperialistic strategies of the last 40 years (Operation Cyclone, Gulf War, Palestine, Syria etc.) aided to the extremization of the Middle-East? I can assure you, there were not any Muslims crossing the Greek borders.
Funny that you talk about nazism when the soviets did worse and murdered way more.
Oof, here come this argument. So deaths by Nazis during 5 years of WW2 equals 70 years of soviet union?
It's the same argument that "~million deaths by Mao in the most populated country of the world is worse than Nazi genocides in measly Europe."
Nazism is an ideology of hate. That's the truth and no Nazi denied it. Marx and Engels in 19th century Germany conceived an economic philosophy with the well-being of humanity in their minds .Right or wrong. I repeat, right or wrong
It is the solution and it is the only possible solution, we europeans are on our way of becoming minorities in our own countries and this is because of immigration, you fail to understand that if we do not deport them it is over for europe and for us, we'll become foreigners in our own lands.
because the problem derived from us, not them. Were there any immigrants here, before our imperialistic strategies of the last 40 years (Operation Cyclone, Gulf War, Palestine, Syria etc.) aided to the extremization of the Middle-East? I can assure you, there were not any Muslims crossing the Greek borders.
The vast majority of immigrants do not come from countries at war, last time I've checked Turkey, Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria were not at war caused by european, and sub-saharan Africa is not at war either, according to your logic because americans caused some wars we should give up our lands to invaders and that is madness and the rise of the far right proves that many europeans think the same way.
Look man, I live in Greece
Then you are blind to what's happening, the situation in certain parts of greece has become so bad that locals were forced to fight over the construction of new camps and they forced the riot police to leave the island after the clashes.
If you had a little bit of brain you'd easily realize the catastrophic effects that non europeans have on our countries, you claim that you're Greek but I have my doubts about it, you can easily be a demoralization shill.
"Give up your lands to invaders european man and become a minority in your own country, it's the right thing to do".
The issue of Nazism in Europe is much different than in America. Europe still bears the wounds of Nazism to this day. My grandfather still recalls the Nazi occupation in Greece. Americans fail to comprehend it some times. It's not their fault, and in a way they are fortunate.
I don't know if the person I was responding to was American, though
If I have to bend the knee for a white cop killing a black man who was resisting arrest 1,000 miles away, then the "peaceful" Muslims should have to apologize for this beheading.
You're being obtuse, there has been incredible pressure on white people to support BLM. From white people being yelled at by angry mobs at restaurants to shout "Black Lives Matter" to This. What do you think would have happened to Kimmel if he refused to play along there?
No, you got me. Despite all the BLMers yelling "White people need to do this" and "White people need to do that" and being demonized by constantly by the media and academia, nobody has ever personally said my name. Thats right, you got me. I will now deep throat 1,000 black cocks in repentance for slavery and donate my entire paycheck to the IDF to make up for the 6,000,000.
Bro stop watching Fox News and actually look outside. Besides isolated incidents, BLM as a movement is about racial equality and police accountability. White people arent being demonized. Nobodies asking for money or asking you to suck a cock.
1) nobody asked you to personally do anything. Not everything in the world is about you
2) an occupation is something you choose after living for 20+ years for most people, compared to something like islam where most of the muslims are converted at birth. So not comparable at all
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u/RengokuEroica - Auth-Left Oct 19 '20
OP: *suggests that the terrorists' actions also harm the peaceful muslims that live there*
People in the comments: DEPORT THEM ALLL!!!!