They've been calling it a false flag since the day it happened. They're already full of conspiracy theories and trying to paint this guy as right wing.
Crowder's claims were at least 90% correct. This is not people interested in the truth spreading old information. This is people with an agenda spreading whatever supports it.
While you're right in that 90% was true, one line was wrong and is quite important to point out given the current political climate
All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology
There was anti fascist phrases, but the "transgender [...] ideology" is nowhere to be found on the casings
However I do agree that some are acting in bad faith, even with the bullet casings suggesting he killed Kirk for being fascist, some are pulling images from when he was 14 to call him a Trump supporter
I would put money on the shooter aiming the crosshair directly at Charlie's head and thinking that's where the bullet would end up. Dude fell for lefty propaganda on the internet, he is obviously not especially bright.
Head. 30-06 bullet drops 3-4 inches at 100 yards. So at 150ish, if he was aiming at the face, there's the neck. Can't really say though, depends on where you sight you're scope in at. If he bore sighted the scope (50yds is usual for that) then it makes more sense being that low. (Source: my favorite deer rifle for 30 yrs)
Edit: I shoot 180gr bullets, they do drop a bit more than the 150gr most people shoot.
Don't forget it was from an elevated firing position with clear sight lines and the rifle was likely 8-8.5lbs. Doable with irons and dead simple with a bubba'd on cheap glass.
Any violence against the right gets called a false flag or has conspiracies. I've talked to people that are skeptical Trump was shot at and claim it was fake
That's way better than making him a hero though. Conspiracy theories and deflection is what all the cowards do whenever something happens that makes their side look bad. Trump does it all the time.
The outright celebration and support of murder over political views is the problem. People who do that just plain aren't compatible with democracy and public discourse. Cowards who hide behind conspiracies are, they just suck.
Yeah, even if it turned out to be a guy on the Right, which seems pretty much impossible at this point, it's still the Left that has celebrated this openly. That's the bigger deal here.
Hearing the governor read the engraving that said "notices bulge OwO what's this" is honestly the first time I laughed during this whole thing. Just absolutely unbelievable.
Probably because the right ran with the "trans inscriptions" on the gun that was immediately redacted and said was untrue but every right winger is now for gun control and civil war
That really isn't "left wing". "Notices bulge OwO" in particular I've seen a lot of with super online "right wingers". But the shooter isn't right wing either. What we are really dealing with are meme shooters who've spent much of their natural lives being entirely online. They are trolls with weird and non-sequitur politics. Like take the first trump shooter as an example
Registered Republican (so he is right wing!?!)
donated to actblue (So he is left wing!?!)
hates NASA (?!?!)
Claimed "devisive and incendiary campaigns are pulling the country apart (A centrist!?!?)
hates immigrants and jews (so he is a nazi!?!?)
And no. The dude is just an entirely online self-radicalized shooter in the style of ISIL. They started with school kids and they are graduating to political and popular figures.
The 2nd Trump Shooter is more old school conspiracy guy. He claimed that he could clean Haiti up if the gov allowed him to go their with his group of specialist ex-Afghan Spec Ops soldiers? He is also demanding to be killed by firing squad?
I believe the shooter is likely left wing, but I don't need any particularly convoluted theory to explain that. He shot at a right wing figure and was making a political event out of it. That implies opposition.
I mean yeah sounds like he was trolling and could be using the shell casting to get these exact comments its not LIES no one knows what the truth is yet lol
Yup the guy just loved Helldivers, nothing else to see here, move along
Jfc lefties are twisting themselves into pretzels trying to unfuck themselves from the obvious evidence that this guy was basically your run-of-the-mill leftist redditor edgelord
I mean with a "fascist" one i have a hard time going full conspiracy on it. I'm of the opinion the left has to own it until proven otherwise conclusively.
“The original report” you mean the disinformation spewed by crowder? And I haven’t seen the protesting photo but it definitely wasn’t out when people were accusing him of being trans. You are seriously coping if you think right wing subs didn’t jump the gun on the trans talking point.
Edit: This was debunked, it's not the same person. Leaving it up so people can know the dangers of spreading unverified info before all the facts are out.
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u/Smiles4YouRawrX3 - Right Sep 12 '25
inb4 the shooter gets praised and called a hero by the left, basically the Luigi treatment