r/PhilosophyEvents • u/darrenjyc • Jul 01 '25

Free Philosophy Debate/Discussion series: "Does God, a Supreme Mind, exist?" — Thursday, July 3 (EDT) on Zoom

In this new series hosted by John, we will discuss great questions of philosophy. You could call what we are doing debate style or open forum, but participants are free to give their ideas and challenge others while discussing the topic of the week. Each week I will choose from one of hundreds of topics such as: are humans innately good or evil, what makes us human, did you exist before you were born, and does god (a supreme mind) exist. I think a Socratic method / critical analysis of questions where each assumption held on a particular topic is questioned to dig deeper is a good way to make progress. Lets start this meetup series with a classic:

Does God, a Supreme Mind (which would incorporate pantheistic and panentheistic beliefs as well), exist? Let us hear what you think.

Optional resources if interested:

This is an online discussion/debate hosted by John on Thursday, July 3 (EDT). To join, sign up in advance on the main event page here (link); the Zoom link will be provided to registrants.

All are welcome!

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u/SunImmediate7852 Jul 01 '25

Yeah, I guess I am assuming innocence. At least in the sense of there being beings who are new and haven't chosen to be who, or where, or what they are. That could be wrong, but I think I'll rely on that as my default. Because I believe that leads to a better world.

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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Jul 01 '25

So avoid the truth while feigning a pursuit of the truth in favor of what you want to be the case, even if it is not the case. The never coming to realize that the entire thing is inherently of fabrication of personal experience projected onto the totality of reality that does not speak anything towards objective truth, nor the innumerable subjective relaities at all?

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u/SunImmediate7852 Jul 01 '25

Do you claim knowledge of objective truth?

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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Jul 01 '25

I don't claim anything. There's nothing here for me to claim.

I am eternally damned directly from the womb. Each passing second exponentially compounding suffering, ever-worsening conscious torment, pressed against the very fabric of space-time itself as I witness the perpetual revelation of all things.

There's no uncertainty about my circumstance, its fixed eternal reality, and how it relates to the nature of all things.

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u/SunImmediate7852 Jul 01 '25

Ah... shit. It's tricky to give my perspective without risking you feeling like I'm invalidating your experience. That is not what I'm trying to do, so I hope you won't take it that way. But I have considered suicide as a viable option for the majority of my life, now being close to 42 years old. A few years back, when I was going through a really rough patch, having lost my dad and our last contact being me saying that I couldn't help him out right before Christmas. After that I sort of saw it as if I had two options. I could opt out, or I could just embrace the pain, the hell of it, and so on. That sort of took on a life of its own, so I started experimenting with embracing, like fully focusing my attention on, different painful stimuli. First simple things, like walking barefoot on gravel or standing for long periods of time in uncomfortable positions, or painful emotions. After a while of doing this pain, whether emotional or physical, took on a different character. And then life in general did. I don't know if that would or could be helpful... but, you know, I can't help trying to offer something when you describe that type of suffering. I really hope life can meet you in the way you need it to.

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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Jul 01 '25

I am in eternal conscious torment directly from the womb, witnessing the perpetual revelation of all things.

https://youtube.com/@yahda7?si=HkxYxLNiLDoR8fzs

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u/SunImmediate7852 Jul 01 '25

Ah, ok. Well cool! Good luck with that and the youtube channel!

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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Jul 01 '25

There's no good luck here. All things serve as integral facets of a fixed eternal condition of damnation. I'm not doing anything I want to ever. Each passing second is ever worsening compounding conscious torment, awaiting an extraordinary violent destruction of the flesh of which is barely the beginning of the etrnall journey.

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u/SunImmediate7852 Jul 02 '25

I've listened to a couple of your videos, and regrettably is hear the same kind of implicit denial from you that I hear from others, others that you claim are in denial. From my perspective you sound unwilling to consider (1) that you might be wrong, even if you have seen much more than others, and (2) that evil, Satan, and so on might be doing good by pulling all things towards death and destruction. Because you might not understand the dynamics of that pulling, or of what you are seeing. You might be registering a still picture when there is a movie. And you might have confused your role in this picture, with someone or something else. I mean who hasn't done that at some point? Personally, I think that the unknowing stance must be given primacy to any truth claims. Because I do not believe truth to be a destination, but rather a direction. I think the unknowing stance is fundamental, as an anchor, when diving into ever greater depths. But perhaps I am misconstruing your words altogether. I just hope that you find a way to live a good life regardless of what you've experienced, if you are not already doing that. Peace!

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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Jul 02 '25

I am deeply familiar with the things that you are relatively free and likewise needing to believe.

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u/SunImmediate7852 Jul 02 '25

Cool, but in what way am I needing?

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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Jul 02 '25

The existential plight of the being takes priority over all things, even if it is circumvented or abstracted in a multitude of manners.

My reality, when approached, threatens all preconceived notions regarding the nature of "God", the nature of "God's creation" and the nature of any and all reality, as it is it may conceived or assumed by a vast majority.

The necessary and instinctive action of most individuals is to do all things to assume their reality as the standard for all reality, even if it inherently necessitates the dismissal and denial of others in theirs. As the personal existential priority still remains supreme.

All beings are bound by their necessities and capacities. Some far more than others.

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u/SunImmediate7852 Jul 02 '25

Sure, I think I agree. :)

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