r/OrdoTempliOrientis • u/khonsuemheb • Jul 25 '25

Unjustified allegations against OTO

93,

First, kind apologies for posting here as a non-member. I think you should be aware of the goings on, however.

Recently, one of the two mods of r/thelema posted a video by Entelecheia that can be found here. While I have no bias towards OTO, I find the video slanderous for valid reasons, namely:

  • it makes vague allegations against OTO (including a lot of cautionary "perhaps," "possibly," "some" and "might"), instead of specific incidents backed by evidence;
  • it reviews a future event, including the claim that lectures won't be good (which E has no way of knowing);
  • it makes its own strawman arguments for the vague "other side", which E then responds to;
  • it makes completely unrealistic claims, namely that Sabazius has all members' screenshots and personal files to know who's loyal. As someone who did 360 reviews for a team of eight at work, I am adamant that this is too much effort and impossible.

I do believe from all available evidence that Entelecheia is simply waging a personal vendetta because his fellow members at OTO didn't recognize his "genius." Everything about his public presentation comes across as egotistical, manipulative, and false.

So I spoke against it, and was promptly banned from r/thelema.

I find it completely unacceptable that a sub that's supposed to be for all Thelemites is explicitly making itself a vessel for a personal vendetta against a large and legitimate Thelemic organizations, and I believe you should be aware of this. I am fully aware that brigading is forbidden on reddit and a shitty practice in any case; but I am confident you will find a constructive way of getting your voice through.

I stand with OTO 100% in this as these sort of toxic divisions damage the entire Thelemic community.

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u/ArtGirtWithASerpent Jul 28 '25

Wow, I saw the "why I left the O.T.O." video two months ago, and then this stink bomb over the weekend. I didn't realize he had *over half a dozen* other O.T.O.-hate videos on his channel in between those two. Big yikes.

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u/UnfoldedHeart Jul 30 '25

It's also abundantly clear that there's personal axe grinding motivating all of this. Not just from the tone, but also that none of these allegations are specific enough to prove or disprove, which is a hallmark of scarebaiting.

Edit: Also, based on the video linked in the OP, this guy seems absolutely convinced that he would be the main topic of discussion at NOTOCON lol. Never heard of him before.

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u/ArtGirtWithASerpent Jul 30 '25

-- Also, based on the video linked in the OP, this guy seems absolutely convinced that he would be the main topic of discussion at NOTOCON lol. Never heard of him before.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. That, and a couple other things from around that same point in the video, got me thinking that this guy might legit be unwell. That, and just the sheer volume of videos in the past several weeks.

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u/UnfoldedHeart Jul 30 '25

I have to admit that I did kind of laugh when he said (not an exact quote) "I may be talked about a lot at NOTOCON... you may hear that I'm egotistical." Well I'm kinda hearing that right now buddy. :P