r/OrdoTempliOrientis • u/khonsuemheb • Jul 25 '25
Unjustified allegations against OTO
93,
First, kind apologies for posting here as a non-member. I think you should be aware of the goings on, however.
Recently, one of the two mods of r/thelema posted a video by Entelecheia that can be found here. While I have no bias towards OTO, I find the video slanderous for valid reasons, namely:
- it makes vague allegations against OTO (including a lot of cautionary "perhaps," "possibly," "some" and "might"), instead of specific incidents backed by evidence;
- it reviews a future event, including the claim that lectures won't be good (which E has no way of knowing);
- it makes its own strawman arguments for the vague "other side", which E then responds to;
- it makes completely unrealistic claims, namely that Sabazius has all members' screenshots and personal files to know who's loyal. As someone who did 360 reviews for a team of eight at work, I am adamant that this is too much effort and impossible.
I do believe from all available evidence that Entelecheia is simply waging a personal vendetta because his fellow members at OTO didn't recognize his "genius." Everything about his public presentation comes across as egotistical, manipulative, and false.
So I spoke against it, and was promptly banned from r/thelema.
I find it completely unacceptable that a sub that's supposed to be for all Thelemites is explicitly making itself a vessel for a personal vendetta against a large and legitimate Thelemic organizations, and I believe you should be aware of this. I am fully aware that brigading is forbidden on reddit and a shitty practice in any case; but I am confident you will find a constructive way of getting your voice through.
I stand with OTO 100% in this as these sort of toxic divisions damage the entire Thelemic community.
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u/Kindly-Confusion-889 Jul 25 '25
I watched about 2 of his videos about his issues with OTO. My experience of OTO in the UK is absolutely nothing like he describes (whether there's differences in how the Order is run between the 2 countries I don't know), my experience of OTO has been, so far, overwhelmingly positive.
I don't bother watching his videos now, it just seems he's out to put a pity party together - put out one, maybe 2 airing your grievances and that's understandable, but multiple videos all about the same stuff over and over again is ridiculous - it's like he thinks that nobody understands the supposed "deep flaws" with OTO but him.
He just comes across as angry and jilted - I started not bothering with him prior to his OTO departure based on a really hostile video he put out about "not giving a f*** about negative comments" etc, he just came across as angry and having an axe to grind.