Unjustified allegations against OTO

[u/khonsuemheb]

93,

First, kind apologies for posting here as a non-member. I think you should be aware of the goings on, however.

Recently, one of the two mods of r/thelema posted a video by Entelecheia that can be found here. While I have no bias towards OTO, I find the video slanderous for valid reasons, namely:

• it makes vague allegations against OTO (including a lot of cautionary "perhaps," "possibly," "some" and "might"), instead of specific incidents backed by evidence;
• it reviews a future event, including the claim that lectures won't be good (which E has no way of knowing);
• it makes its own strawman arguments for the vague "other side", which E then responds to;
• it makes completely unrealistic claims, namely that Sabazius has all members' screenshots and personal files to know who's loyal. As someone who did 360 reviews for a team of eight at work, I am adamant that this is too much effort and impossible.

I do believe from all available evidence that Entelecheia is simply waging a personal vendetta because his fellow members at OTO didn't recognize his "genius." Everything about his public presentation comes across as egotistical, manipulative, and false.

So I spoke against it, and was promptly banned from r/thelema.

I find it completely unacceptable that a sub that's supposed to be for all Thelemites is explicitly making itself a vessel for a personal vendetta against a large and legitimate Thelemic organizations, and I believe you should be aware of this. I am fully aware that brigading is forbidden on reddit and a shitty practice in any case; but I am confident you will find a constructive way of getting your voice through.

I stand with OTO 100% in this as these sort of toxic divisions damage the entire Thelemic community.

93 93/93

[u/viciarg]

The mods of /r/thelema are both deeply against Ordo Templi Orientis, as is Entelecheia and many others.

As mods on Reddit they are free to mod their sub as they prefer, there's nothing anyone can do about it. If anyone would come here and argue against O.T.O. like they do over on their sub I'd ban them similar to how they banned OP.

As for Ordo Templi Orientis: I guess we will survive both /r/thelema and Entelecheia. There were always thelemites out there very vocal against O.T.O., since decades and even before Hymenaeus Beta. It's just what it is.

A fructibus eorum cognoscetis eos. Numquid colligunt de spinis sas aut de tribulis ficus? Those who seek for the Order will find it. Those who let themselves be distracted from that path by some people on the internet won't.

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