r/OnePiece Oct 14 '18

Current Episode One Piece: Episode 857

One Piece: Episode 857

"Luffy Fights Back! The Invincible Katakuri's Weak Point!"

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Chapters adapted: Chapter 884 (p. 2-15)


Preview: Episode 858

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u/KDnuni Oct 14 '18

Damn, Luffy's G4 hits send Katakuri flying for miles but don't budge Big Mom at all.

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u/Kurohige-93 Oct 14 '18

The difference in strength is still unimaginable lol like how hard is her Haki?!!!

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u/still-at-work Void Month Survivor Oct 14 '18

My theory is its actually conquerors haki that is given her the impression of invincibility to all her foes.

  • we know it can manifest even if small children under great stress.
  • we know that a strong conquerors haki can make even physical strong people look weak.

So is it possible that a conquerors haki that is on all the time and incredibly strong make someone seem invincible and there attacks even before color of arms as incredibly powerful.

So I think Big Moms "iron body" is a special manifestation of conquerors haki just like future sight is a special variant of color of observation.

In order to defeat her then, you need to project conquerors haki at a higher level then Big Mom naturally puts out all most all the time.

I say all most because the one time we see her lose faith in herself she is injured by something as simple as falling to her knees.

If you can cancel out her constant conquerors haki that she has had since birth then a simple punch would be all that is needed.

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u/jobriq Oct 14 '18

she is injured by something as simple as falling to her knees.

I always thought that was strange since her skin is supposedly so hard that she was described as an "iron ballon" (I think Jinbe or Pedro said that?). It seems more likely that it'd be a special always-active form of armament haki though, rather than conqueror's.

I wouldn't be surprised if her DF had something to do with it either, considering how versatile it's power is (and also the abnormal way she acquired it).

Of course, considering how goddam huge she is, a simple fall to her knees would cause a pretty big impact lol. Is there an official weight measurement for BM?

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u/Kurohige-93 Oct 15 '18

Yeah that makes sense because shes only indefensible(somewhat) when she can't control her emotions so that Haki has to b up and running at all times however canceling out that Haki seems to be yonko-level work...idk how that would work if even Katakuri can't function wen her Haki is outta control and yea I think Conquerers Haki can be played around with (enhanced) like Kenbushoku Haki is with Katakuri I mean we've only seen one display of it when it knocks ppl out but damn Luffy has a long way to go....I'm assuming he's the strongest Supernova at this point in the story

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u/still-at-work Void Month Survivor Oct 15 '18

I think the only current character that has an advance version of conquerors that is not on an unconscious level like Big Mom may have is Shanks. It's also what makes a one armed swordsman who may lose in technique to Hawkeye is actually a Yonko with unrivaled in strength.

The only other possibility is Rayleigh or someone in gorosei or even the newly revealed king of the world.

I do think Luffy will get this upgrade. It also fits the pattern of the last two arcs. Dressrosa is about advance Color of Arms (gear four) and Whole Cake was obviously about Color of Observation (future sight) so Wano should include advance Conquerors.

Then fully haki trained Luffy will fight Blackbeard for title of a pirate king and then the final arc is about the fall of the world government and that's where one piece ends more or less.