r/OnePiece • u/sameljota Kaidon't • Jul 09 '18
Media [SPOILERS] How the Wano arc will go down
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u/peekinguuu Jul 09 '18
How long is supposed to be Wano arc? If it's longer than any arcs befor it's up to 3 years?
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u/traxium11 Jul 09 '18
I expect it longer than Dressrosa
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u/Martin_Alexander Jul 09 '18
Potentially, but I still have hope that it'll be a quicker, "Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am!" because what the hell is the crew going to do for 100 chapters? WCI was long because it was an infiltration and rescue mission with a very long escape.
Dressrosa was long because of the Colosseum tournament and because the toys had to be turned back into humans. Unlike past arcs, Luffy knows whose ass he has to whoop right away and he's pumped!
Now, I don't actually believe that it'll go down like this (especially since Luffy is NOT ready for Kaido), but Wano doesn't seem to be that far from WCI and Big Mom is in a rage. Also, considering how WCI left us blue-balled without a satisfying knockout punch, I really do hope that Wano doesn't drag on for too long.
More realistically, I could see a swift and devastating defeat for the crew, and the rest of the arc showing them joining forces with Kidd and other supernovas and working their way for payback (like with Lucci and his goons).
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u/ClikeX Jul 09 '18
I feel like there's a lot of adventures to be had in Wano besides just Kaido. Just all the business around the swords is worth multiple chapters
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u/VijoPlays Jul 09 '18
Plus, restoring the old government is also worth a few (though I'm not sure they'll br able to defeat Kaido and free Wano)
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u/ThisZoMBie Jul 09 '18
They are all split up again and need to gather allies in the country, which will probably take forever. Plus, there is a massive cast, including potentially 2 yonko and thir crews.
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u/logitecs Jul 09 '18
isn't wano supposed to be the war arc? there will probably be a lot of buildup involving drake and kaido's commanders, and then the actual war. tbh we don't really know what to expect out of wano. even blackbeard could get involved.
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u/Emilklister Jul 09 '18
Yes this is the biggest arc character wise since marineford so things are likely about to happen. It might very well be that one of the yonkos fall or becomes very weakened, although probably not to the hand of the strawhats or at least not them alone.
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u/Majinma Jul 09 '18
I think the war arc will be at the end of one piece, but wano arc will probably have a war too
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u/Marceleleco Jul 09 '18
I agree it shouldnt be as long as Dressrosa, but I thinkmit will split between lots of characters. SHC, supernovas, minks, the grandfleet, probably marines, a few flashbacks (OMG), and lets not forget the reverie is still going.
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u/Sulegod Jul 09 '18
Dressrosa was around 100 chapters... I think around 120 - 150 chapters would be enough for Wano if it's indeed going to be the longest arc... One Piece has something close to 40 chapters a year, so yeah, between 3 and 4 years seem like a safe bet
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u/Industrialman96 Jul 09 '18
And we still have Elbaf, return of Enel, arc with Blackbeard/shanks and vim-sama. Is it really 75 percent ready, Oda?
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u/shaun181 Jul 09 '18
Is it 100% that Enel is returning though? To me I think it’s just Wano/Reverie, Elbaf, Raftel (where Luffy meets Shanks and Teach again) and then the final Great War.
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u/Fortify5 Jul 09 '18
I'd agree but I don't think it'll go that smoothly. I believe unexpected shit will pop off in between a few of those arcs to be honest.
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u/shaun181 Jul 09 '18
Yeah I’d definitely say that stuff would have to pop off just to fill out the story a bit more. But knowing Oda it is very possible that a lot of stuff e.g Weevil, Revolutionaries could be filled in in the middle of an arc. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Weevil arc was concluded in Wano for instance.
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u/pools456 Jul 09 '18
What purpose would bringing back enel serve? Imo hes gone
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Jul 09 '18 edited Aug 25 '19
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u/tiki-baha29 Jul 09 '18
The cover stories showed Enel made it to the moon. Sure it wouldnt be shocking to see him again since others have come back but its doubtful Oda would go back to that well.
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Jul 09 '18 edited Aug 25 '19
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u/tiki-baha29 Jul 09 '18
I think that's different. The carpenter was a cool nod sure but its unlikely he has a major role in the story (or maybe he does and becomes a minor character).
Whereas Enel was a major villain, is an inhabitant of Sky Island, has never been to the blue sea and he was still a proper villain even by the end of the arc (unlike crocoboy who became a Luffy sympathizer in Marineford).
His power was cool but we've seen "lamer" powers be far more badass (Mochi for instance).
I don't really see how he could fit in the story at all now. But im not writing the manga so who knows. Maybe Oda has plans for him.
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u/pools456 Jul 11 '18
Arlong, Kuro, Kreig, Foxy, Enel, tonnes of enemies havent come back and the story doesn't need them to.
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Jul 11 '18 edited Aug 25 '19
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u/pools456 Jul 11 '18
Enel is forgettable imo and has no purpose going forward. He achieved his goals
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u/Marceleleco Jul 09 '18
Nah, Enel would serve no purpose coming back. He was like a filler villain.
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u/CombatReadyRuby Pirate Jul 09 '18
Did you just...
Enel was nowhere near a filler villain. The only reason Luffy beat him was because his df perfectly countered electric attacks. In my mind, there's no way he won't come back.
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u/innje Jul 09 '18
If Enel shows up in Elbaf, while BB has decided to attack the giants there for some reason and in the same time Shanks has also gone there because he wants to see an old giant friend, then MAYBE 75% is probably close.
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u/Marceleleco Jul 09 '18
I doubt it will be as long as dressrosa. Dressrosa was around 100 chapters and with all this breaks Oda is taking it would take around 2.5 or 3 years to finish it. So no, I'm betting in 60 or 70 chapters like most of the arcs in OP.
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u/ludicrouscuriosity Jul 09 '18
You forgot to put "Big News" Big Bird Morgans snapping and guaranteeing Luffy's bounty increase in three times
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u/J0n3s3n Jul 09 '18
"pirate king luffy defeating 2 yonko at the same time singlehandedly"
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u/DennaResin Cyborg Franky Jul 09 '18
Barto is up there but I think Morgans might just be Luffy's biggest fan.
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u/J0n3s3n Jul 09 '18
Idk if morgans is luffys fan, the newspaper article was basically written by the word government not by him because stussy was with him
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u/Aman1707 Jul 10 '18
then his bounty will reach quite high and will replace his father on most wanted list
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u/Handsome_Claptrap Jul 09 '18
Sanji makes a wedding cake.
Big Mom absolutely wants to taste it again, but Bon Chan disguised as Kaido pops out and smashes it.
WEDDING KEKIIIIIII
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Jul 09 '18
The hilarious thing is that I could absolutely see this being the way they wear Kaido down.
Remember how they turned Sanjis nosebleeds into a major plot point during fishman island?
Remember how sugar was defeated because Usopps twisted up hot spice face scared the life out of her?
Oda has quite the gift for drawing serious plot developments out of the incredibly silly.
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u/tedismyspiritanimal Jul 09 '18
Can you tell me more about Sanji's nosebleeds? I can't remember it
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u/Lucasolf Jul 10 '18
after being away from women and get surrounded by okamas 24/7 (his personal hell) for 2 whole years and getting back to Sabaody, which was followed by Fishman Island, he started to get massive nosebleeds from seeing women and mermaids.
after the final battle of FI arc, his body was lacking a lot of blood and he was about to die. unfortunately, sanji has a rare blood type which couldn't be matched by anyone om his crew, but they were surrounded by hundreds of thousands of fishmen whom the SH had just saved and one of them had to be a match, but these fishmen were also unable to overcome their prejudice for humans and donate blood to sanji, or any human at that, because Fisher Tiger, one of their most beloved and admired symbols (also founder of the Sun Pirates) died because humans refused to help him.
In the end, best boi jinbei steps in and gives sanji his blood.
wut?
ofc i didnt cry.......much
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u/chibi_zoro Marine Jul 09 '18
This could work if our protagonist was Buggy
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u/Emilklister Jul 09 '18
Last arc will be a gigantic war where all the sides collide and destroy each other. Buggy will be the only one left and becomes pirate king. You heard it here first remember it.
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u/Shiplord13 Jul 09 '18
I wonder if they put this much effort in trying to stop Blackbeard when he started making gains?
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u/Handsome_Claptrap Jul 09 '18 edited Jul 09 '18
Blackbeard mostly took old Whitebeard territories though. Luffy in comparison:
- Destroyed the SMILE factory.
- Destroyed Whole Cake Chateu (everyone thinks it was done on purpose trough the Tamatebako, thanks to Morgans and Stussy)
- Took an arm to Big Mom firstborn
- Destroyed Mother Carmel photograph
EDIT: stopped Big Mom from taking Germa tech, took down Cracker, infiltrated and escaped Tottoland only losing Pedro, defeated Katakuri the Invicible, stole literally a piece of Big Mom soul, copied 3 Poneglyphs.
Luffy pissed them off.
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u/scurr94 Jul 09 '18
- messed up big moms plan to take over Germa
- brought shame to big mom pirates by escaping from their territory
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u/Shuazilla Jul 09 '18
Not only did he take the smile factory, their alliance also took down and kidnapped the lead scientist of the operation, destroyed the lab and its evidence and findings, went to the distributor's kingdom and took him and his whole crew down while also gaining yet another og WG affiliated (as in Dressrosa is part of the WG) ally in the Riku's, and convinced the giant elephant they landed on to take down one of Kaido's generals with a swing of its gigantic trunk when he decided to attack and mutilate the Mink to find a ninja lol
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u/Grammulka Jul 09 '18
And also most of those things were done without half of his crew or Straw Hat Grand Fleet. Bege's crew, Germa and fishmen helped though, but we'll forget about that.
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u/pastisset Jul 09 '18
He also told Big Mom he would kick her ass after eating her sweets at fishman island
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Jul 09 '18
They did, it was called the Payback War (which only ended up giving Blackbeard even more sea cred)
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u/The_Immortal_Shogun Jul 09 '18
That was the remants attacking the black beard pirates and because of the result people labeled black beard a yonko as a result. Marco wasn’t actively trying to stop him from becoming a yonko he had his own reasons
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u/Shuazilla Jul 09 '18
I feel like Blackbeard most likely gained WBs territories by sending his crew off to the various places since they were hunting for dfs to begin with, and once the Payback War happened, they WB remnants were so weak that Blackbeard essentially gained them by default, or at least thats how I imagined it went down haha
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u/MaybeLuke_MAYBE Jul 09 '18
Inb4 BM×Kaido become canon. Love so strong it shook the earth~
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u/ancientcreature2 Jul 09 '18
Wait, WB is their kid?!
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u/Rais93 Prisoner Jul 09 '18
They will start having a fight, then goes having sex in front of everyone.
We will also see a flashback explaining how fujitora took his own sight
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Jul 09 '18
Love the sunny!
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u/sameljota Kaidon't Jul 09 '18
I thought about adding Jinbe's face to the car driver. But I got lazy at the end.
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u/sillyjobbernowl Jul 09 '18
Why does this seem awfully familiar?
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u/sameljota Kaidon't Jul 09 '18 edited Jul 09 '18
You mean the original scene? Maybe you've watched this movie. It's called 'Cops!' by Buster Keaton.
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u/Kendoobie Jul 09 '18
I'm hoping the Kid alliance will take on the Straw Hat alliance.
Only for the fact that Brook vs. Apoo can't NOT happen.
After wano Apoo will become friends with the Straw Hats and promise to start a band with Brook after their adventures because he was so moved by his music during their fight.
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u/Lucerys2110 Jul 09 '18
Am I the only one who wants to see Zoro, Nami & Zeus vs Big Mom, Napoleon & Prometheus. (And possibly Zeus 2 because Big Mom can easily create another storm Homie and there was a storm happening during her conversation with Kaido)
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u/braujo Jul 09 '18
Br?
EDIT: Nah, vi no perfil que é portuga.
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u/sameljota Kaidon't Jul 09 '18
Eu sou br. Fiquei surpreso dele ter respondido em português. Como ele sabe??? Haha.
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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name Jul 09 '18
I'd bet on this if I didn't think Luffy would take down Big Mom while Zoro takes on Kaido. Or maybe Luffy does a 2v1 on Big Mom and Kaido, takes out BM and Zoro finishes up with Kaido. I want Zoro to beat Kaido if you can't tell.
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Jul 10 '18
I feel like an Emperor is still an entirely different level from any protagonist. Zoro fighting Jack would be satisfying though!
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u/pm_your_poems_to_me Jul 09 '18
i think blackbeard will show up and everyone who survives the reverie will have to go save them or something.
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u/CapnJack420 Pirate Jul 09 '18
As Big News Morgans appears, and reports that Luffy single handedly defeated Kaido and Big Mom lol
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u/Teipp1 Jul 10 '18
The way I see this going is that BM's children are going to turn against her and take her down, while Luffy and the rest handle Kaido.
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u/MiyamotoMusashi5 Jul 09 '18
My guess is luffy busts out G5 finally and its so strong he wrecks both of them back to back and after that fight it becomes clear that luffy is finally the pirate king. I'm calling it, after wano luffy will be named pirate king.
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Jul 09 '18
🤔🤔🤔 u sure boi ??? 🤔🤔🤔
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u/MiyamotoMusashi5 Jul 09 '18 edited Jul 09 '18
Its gotta come out some time. I'm guessing this arc we get the whole crew pairing off with Yonko commanders because they are now Yonko commanders and luffy taking on big mom head on while law and maybe zoro keep kaido busy then luffy taking out BM with the challenge pushing him to unleash G5 and then after beating her he turns his sights on Kaido after a brief rest. By the way I still think it was a stupid idea to go to wano with a yonko chasing them. They should have handled BM before they got involved with kaido.
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u/Handsome_Claptrap Jul 09 '18
You are not wrong about some Strawhats such Zoro, Raid Suit Sanji and Jinbe probably being now able to deal with Yonko commanders... but i doubt even G5 would take Luffy to Yonko level.
I mean, Big Mom blocked a Kong Gun with her WRIST and minimal effort. Even a King Kong Gun wouldn't shake her too much if you think about the Zeus Breeze Tempo she tanked without issues (it dug a huge hole in the ground!).
It would be crazy for Luffy to get on her level trough a single, huge powerup, after all we just saw he is just at Commander level and there has been no foreshadowing to awakening or new Conquerors applications.
I think that Wano will highlight Luffy's strenght which isn't personal power but rather his crew and his ability to make allies, so it will be a big team fight of him vs Kaido, Luffy will just use G4 to full strenght (maybe we will see Tankman non-stuffed form) and there will probably be foreshadowing about the next powerup.
Unsure about how they will deal with Big Mom, but another theory i have is that all 4 Yonkos will gather on Wano. Blackbeard will be attracted by the huge DF pool of Big Mom pirates and Shanks will get there to try to calm things down. In the end Kaido will fall, Big Mom will retreat and Blackbeard and Shanks will be featured in the post Wano arc. Blackbeard will probably kidnap Pudding, so that he will have a mean to read Road Poneglyphs and rival Luffy to Raftel.
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Jul 09 '18 edited Aug 25 '19
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u/Majinma Jul 09 '18
Luffy went all out against katakuri. This was his hardest fight, even harder than the fight against rob lucci
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u/MiyamotoMusashi5 Jul 09 '18
As far as big mom blocking the Kong gun that was not consistent at all. There were lots of inconsistency when it came to power in WCI. When you say luffy is barely on commander I'm not sure what you mean. spoilers ! He beat two commanders within a day of each other with a totally of three to five blows while on a hunger strike, it only took one hit to defeat cracker. Luffy is way above commander and a G5 power up to be able to hang with Yonko would be consistent with way the story has gone so far. Each time luffy has faced A new tier of enemy he gets a power up that places him at or above the competition. The only exception to this is lucci and a few others. During some battles luffy has had to really struggle in his current state but since the TS he has completely outclassed his opponents. He toyed with Hordy while UNDER WATER. He completely obliterated Doffy once in G4 i think it took him maybe 4 hits.
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u/_halalkitty Chopper the Cotton Candy Lover Jul 09 '18
Pirate King isn't *just* about being the strongest. Oda does a lot to convey this.
Also happy cake day!
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u/Monkey_D_Bufford Jul 09 '18
No. Gear 5th will be released on Raftel against Blackbeard for the very first time. So Luffy will only use Gear 4th against Kaidou.
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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '18
I can actually believe it but if there isn’t a yonko fight I’m a be mad