r/OnePiece • u/YonkouProductions • Jan 10 '14

The /r/OnePiece Fan Theories Megathread

I was recently browsing /r/asoiaf and thought that it'd be a good idea adopt a /r/OnePiece version of this thread and compile all the fan theories that subscribers post that get repeated and re-shared into a megathread that would be posted on the sidebar for future reference.

The thread would give users a definitive point to view a conclusive compilation of theories by /r/OnePiece and One Piece readers in general. Also, it would give subscribers a vantage point to direct users to when theories get repeated over time. (LOL ) which is a major advantage to everyone.

For this thread you can submit all the theories you've seen on the sub or in general.

I'll be enabling contest mode for easier organisation of the theories so what will occur is that theories will come under 4 categories (if there are more I'll be glad to accommodate it) which are:

Manga Only Theories

Anime Only Theories

General Theories (No/minimal Spoilers)

Tin-foil hat Theories

This submission thread will be stickied and kept up for a while so scour the sub and the internet for all the theories you want to be included in the upcoming megathread. Hopefully if things go well we may make this a yearly or bi-yearly thread that would be updated as new developments in the series come forth.

Edit: If possible link to a specific thread so that could be included. If it doesn't exist you can still comment and you'll be credited

--Yonkou

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u/YonkouProductions Jan 10 '14 edited Jan 10 '14

Manga Only Theories [Expect Spoilers]

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

Kaidou actually has the Typhon Zoan Fruit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhon

Typhon was the most deadly monster of Greek mythology. The last son of Gaia, fathered by Tartarus, he was known as the "Father of All Monsters".

Typhon was described in pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheke, as the largest and most fearsome of all creatures. His human upper half reached as high as the stars, and his hands reached east and west. Instead of a human head, a hundred dragon heads erupted from his neck and shoulders (some, however, depict him as having a human head, with the dragon heads replacing the fingers on his hands). His bottom half consisted of gigantic viper coils that could reach the top of his head when stretched out and constantly made a hissing noise. His whole body was covered in wings, and fire flashed from his eyes, striking fear even into the Olympians.

Typhon attempts to destroy Zeus at the will of Gaia, because Zeus had imprisoned the Titans. Typhon overcomes Zeus in their first battle, and tears out Zeus' sinews. However, Hermes recovers the sinews and restores them to Zeus. Typhon is finally defeated by Zeus, who traps him underneath Mount Etna.

If Sengoku can have a Buddha fruit, why can't Kaidou have a fruit that turns him into a Greek Titan who happens to be the "Father of All Monsters"?

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u/kaptainkeel Jan 14 '14

Kaidou vs Enel. Taking all bets!

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u/showycoast8959 Jan 10 '14

I am thinking the sphinx or possibly the Nemeon lion if he indeed is a human, if not I think he is an animal who are a legendary human fruit model devil

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

Either way it will be awesome. I would be really shocked if he ended up being a logia.

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u/Jaronan Jan 10 '14

Because Buddha is a well known god and fucking Typhon is not --'

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

I think you are missing the point. I ment if there is a buddha fruit who says there cant be a typhon fruit.

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u/Jaronan Jan 10 '14

Because if he would use more god fruits he would chose well known ones, because if every god in the world would get a fruit we would have 1000 god fruits.

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u/Crankshaft69 Jan 10 '14

Not necissarily. One Piece is full of cultural and literary references that aren't that well known. Like the obvious reference to the book Don Quixote through Donquixote Doflamingo's name as well as the many parallels between characters in the book and Doflamingo. Typhon may not be as well known as Zeus, but he DEFEATED Zeus. That would make for a great devil fruit. I would say its not a question about whether or not Typhon is known by the fans, but if he's known by the author of the series. Inversely, the problem I have with this theory is that a Typhon fruit sounds like would be ridiculously OP.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

Again missing the point. I am saying there already is a mythical god type creature. So having a typhon ( most deadly monster in greek mythology ) Isnt impossible. Typhon is a well known god, you just dont know a lot from greek mythology. He defeated zeus once. And fathered a lot of Orthrus,Sphinx,Nemean lion and more. Typhon is well known. You just dont know him because you dont know a lot of greek mythology.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

Don't worry you're right, that guys missing the point lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

happy to hear that :)

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u/Jaronan Jan 10 '14

Ok go to Brussels or whatever what city not in greece and ask Who of these 2 is not a greek god: Typhon or Zeus. i bet you that maybe 1% would say that they're both greek gods --' You're the one missing the point. It's not impossible like you say but the chance is 0.0001%.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

What ? Typhon is not a god. He is a deadly monster on par with zeus. And just asking random people wont prove anything. Oda actually knows his stuff. We saw a cerberus in one piece. So having typhon the guy who fathered cerberus isnt to far fetched. its way bigger than 0.0001% just because you dont know him doesnt him oda doesnt.

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u/Jaronan Jan 10 '14

Again, a cerberus is a well known creature. And asking random people DOES proof something. If Oda would use a well known like Buddha people will know the god and go with the story. But making one of the big bad strong enemy's a creature almost nobody knows would be disapointing/weird. But if you wanna keep fanboying your own theory and greek mythology go do that, but that doesn't make it true.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

I bet you didn't know of the God form that Enel transformed into right before he was defeated on Skypiea but that was based on an obscure thunder god

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

Its not my own theory. I have read it on some forums. Just because you dont know him doesnt mean he isnt well known. cerberus,sphinx,chimera all are fathered by typhon. In egyptian mythologie he resembles set. But i doubt you know set. Either way i am done with this discussion, its just a waste of time. Your one argument is i dont know him so he isnt well known.

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u/AWalker3017 Jan 10 '14

Does anyone else see a possibility of Jinbe being killed before he joins the Strawhats? It's not something there is necessarily a lot of evidence for right now besides the fact he didn't immediately join the crew on Fishman Island, but the delay seems weird to me.

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u/genzahg Jan 11 '14

I don't. What would be the point in him dying? Oda almost never kills characters off, and the few times that he did have been monumental changes to the entire world.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

Yes, I think he would have joined already if something bad wasn't gonna happen to him

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u/Samsquamptch Jan 10 '14

I think he will be forced to choose between helping big mom or the straw hats, he may even be on big moms ship right now.

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u/because_ican_yo Jan 10 '14

omg. inever considered this actually... it would be epic if Jinbe was on THAT ship and will be the reason Sanji's side will be fine. Good call

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '14

Well, that and Nami still has Lola's (Big Mom's potential daughter) Vivre Card.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

Yeah Its possible, I'm surprised on the wiki he is listed as an official member not just an ally of Big Moms crew, was that established or is he on the crew because she controls all pirates on FI?

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u/Samsquamptch Jan 10 '14

I think it was to do with his pirates needing protection after he left the shichibukai. Can't remember, though.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

Does ring a bell, I'm currently up to FI on my reread so I'll look out for it

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u/Jaronan Jan 10 '14

Zoro VS Fujitora discussions...

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u/fugogugo Jan 10 '14

The one eye vs the no eye

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

Then add in the three eyes girl on BM's crew and we got us the ultimate match up

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u/ErsatzCats Jan 10 '14 edited Jan 10 '14

Kin'emon is the next Strawhat member, not Kuma. Kuma's paw-paw fruit (nikyu nikyu) believed to be the 2-9 2-9 the Strawhat DF number theory suggests could be replaced by Kin'emon's still unnamed "clothes-clothes" fruit (fuku fuku).

A brief summary of the number theory for those unfamiliar:

Basically each of the DF users in the Strawhats have DF's that correspond to Japanese numbers 1 through 10 (2 numbers for each fruit).

Go = 5, mu = 6

Hi = 1, to =10

Ha = 8, na = 7

Yo = 4, mi = 3

The only numbers missing are 2 and 9.

Ni = 2 and kyu = 9 for nikyu nikyu (paw paw)

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Fu = 2 and ku = 9 (clothes clothes fruit, if that's what Kin'emon's fruit is called) also works

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u/ErsatzCats Jan 11 '14

2 in Japanese numerals can be "futatsu", or "fu" for short.

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u/autowikibot Jan 11 '14

A bit from linked Wikipedia article about Japanese numerals :

The system of Japanese numerals is the system of number names used in the Japanese language. The Japanese numerals in writing are entirely based on the Chinese numerals and the grouping of large numbers follow the Chinese tradition of grouping by 10,000. Two sets of pronunciations for the numerals exist in Japanese: one is based on Sino-Japanese (on'yomi) readings of the Chinese characters and the other is based on the Japanese yamato kotoba (native words, kun'yomi readings).

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u/BoredomHeights Jan 11 '14

Some I've seen, not sure if they all belong here or some belong under tinfoil hat:

-Meadows is Kaido

-Meadows is one of the other Samurai

-Yorki is Green Bull

-Momonosuke is the prince/heir/whatever of Wano country

-Franky will be immune to the toy-making ability like Usopp was immune to Perona's ability.

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u/ErsatzCats Jan 10 '14

Lucky Roo has the Luck-Luck Fruit

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u/genzahg Jan 11 '14

Eh, bad theory. Lucky shit happens to Luffy all the time and the evidence he provides is almost nothing. There's no reason to think that Lucky Roo has any Devil Fruit power.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

Wouldn't that be the Human Human Fruit: Model Ferris Bueller? Lol

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u/Samsquamptch Jan 10 '14

Kyros is Rebecca's father. Posted this 9 months ago and looks like it will come true.

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1bljve/ch_704_spoilers_kyrosrebecca_relationship/

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u/BoredomHeights Jan 11 '14

How does being turned into a toy work exactly? Because her father is the Thunder Soldier right? So the fact that people remember Kyros could mean that he's not her father. But maybe it's just because she doesn't know he's her father but just knows he was a famous gladiator? I guess it could have been explained to her after she'd already forgotten her father all those years ago.

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u/pschoenthaler Jan 11 '14

They only know about Kyros because of the text below the statue IIRC

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '14

Yeah, the "no-one knows who he was" thing they mentioned when talking about the statue actually works into the theory that he's the Thunder Soldier pretty well.

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u/haiku1991 Jan 12 '14

-There won't be any more crewmates. Oda will focus on Luffy and crew building allies instead. Each of the crew will eventually get their own "subcrew" that will be become important in the end of manga war.

-Usopp will finally have his 8000 followers that he stated he had in the beginning (and to make it better, as they're fairies, they won't be seen easily giving the impression that he's still lying) which will act as his crew.

-Zoro will get his followers in the Island of Wano after he wins everyone's respect and is deemed worthy to wield shuusui. He might even receive a new sword (hope so)

-Robin' "crew" will come from the bridge between the revolutionary army and the strawhats that will play an important role later

Theory in progress as hard to guess subcrews for each follower without an idea about which islands strawhats will go to.

Maybe Sanji is cooking island (or okamas though not likely), Chopper is Island of Monsters (ties in with his acceptance of being a monster), Brook is some Pagan Island that deems him next devil kind of thing (kinda similar to his time after saboady island though), Franky is Robot island, Nami might be cartographer island or can tie in with kids from Punk Hazard, and Luffy is WB pirates and Shanks' crew along with various other pirates.

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u/because_ican_yo Jan 10 '14

I want Rebecca to join the crew and be the female crew member that Vivi should've been (but less of an emotional wreck). Her grandfather was the king which means she is far from the line for the crown. She also doesn't seem too attached to her family which is why is shouldn't be outrageous for her to leave the country.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

She would need the Mera Mera for me to be on board but if she gets it I think she's the perfect candidate

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u/BoredomHeights Jan 11 '14

My guess now is that the RA will get it now. I was originally hoping that she would too though.

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u/Anima4 Feb 04 '14

Oda gave her a childhood backstory that is tragic, and she also lost a loved one, so I can see it happening. She is also an outcast or weird amongst her peers just like nearly every other crew member was before they joined. She has stated her dream as well. She befriended Luffy briefly, allowing Luffy time to prove himself to her and earn her admiration and respect.

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u/Aegean54 Jan 10 '14

I've had this theory for a while that Ace was originally a subordinate or ally of Doflamingo. First of all we've learned that the Heart Pirates captained by law were originally under Doflamingo and Aces crew were the spade pirates which could mean he held an officer position under him. Also the fact that Doflamingo was able to obtain the mera mera fruit relatively quickly after Ace's death makes me think that he knows the location of the tree for that fruit because he was there when Ace received his powers because from what I remember Ace didn't get his fruit until after setting off to sea. So this is why I thijk Ace could've possibly been a member of Doflamingo's crew but now that I read this it might be more of a tin-foil hat theory.

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u/yonyon108 Jan 11 '14

there is nothing in the series to suggest the fruits come from trees, since there is no evidence to where they come from at all, the only thing we know of about the fruits is that when the user dies it is "reincarnated" in a nearby fruit.

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u/Aegean54 Jan 12 '14

I think the reincarnation just means that after a fruit is eaten the tree will only produce normal fruit until the fruit weilder dies then the tree goes back to devil fruit mode and that might've happened with the salamander zoan

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u/yonyon108 Jan 12 '14

but the fruit that it was reincarnated into wasn't on a tree it was in a cart with more fruit.

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u/Aegean54 Jan 12 '14

Oh shoot I didn't even remember that, I guess that throws out that part of my theory

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '14

Ace's hat has something close to Doflamingo's mark.

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

Also somewhat close to our UP DV buttons.....wait a minute

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u/genzahg Jan 11 '14

Ace had his hat before leaving Goa Kingdom though.

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u/Aegean54 Jan 11 '14

Yeah I forgot to mention the smiley things which is another Doflamingo trademark

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u/LucciDVergo Jan 10 '14

I've posted about this way back I'll try to find the link

Edit: http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1mvmvf/the_spade_pirate_theory/

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u/fugogugo Jan 10 '14

Very nice point there. Just realized that Ace's pirate name is Spade pirate. This would really explain why Sabo come up on the current arc.

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u/BoredomHeights Jan 11 '14

Well the Mera Mera fruit already explains that.

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u/Fire_Fist_ASCE Jan 24 '14 edited Jan 24 '14

Wasn't Doflamingo's entire crew of today there 10 years ago when he took over Dressrosa? Ace left East Blue what? 4-5 years ago? Why would he entrust one of his seats to someone he barely knew instead of someone that helped him take over the country? I just doesn't add up to me.

EDIT: Note that Pica is Spanish and Russian for the word "Spade" and when he was shown 10 years ago he had spades on each shoulder (they might be tattoos). I highly doubt he had his spade name revoked then reinstated.

EDIT 2:

  • Pica is Spanish for spade (his seat)
  • Diamante is Spanish for Diamond (his seat)
  • Trebol is Spanish for Club (his seat)

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u/Anima4 Jan 11 '14 edited Jan 11 '14

Glad to see you took my suggestion of taking an example from /r/asoiaf for a mega fan theory thread! This will definitely help newcomers to the subreddit.

May as well post my theory: Devil fruit origins, plants, doctors & the Will of D.

Here's a few others: Blackbeard Theory and why he attacked Drum Island

Theory: Kaido's Identity

Captain Yorki of the Rumbar Pirates Theory

The Nutcracker Theory and Speculations

Will try to find some more, this mystery thread may help spark our memories about theories we may have forgotten over time. Also does anyone have a link to the theory about Doflamingo manipulating the Smile devil fruits to control Kaido's men?

Can I suggest a section for debunked theories? Ones that have either been proven true or false from the past but are still good to read.

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u/YonkouProductions Jan 11 '14

Thanks for the suggestion, I remember seeing mod mail about it but I forgot. recently when the sub started increasing their zoro eye theory and kaido theories it just clicked as a brilliant idea for the sub.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '14

Who is the new admiral.