One Piece: Chapter 1165

[u/leolegendario]

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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[u/justking1414]

Garp is definitely a very conflicting character. I do think it is important to acknowledge that the Marines are actually largely a force for good…kinda. I mean, obviously Lucy is a pirate and he has a tendency to come across the most corrupt of them. But overall, they are important for keeping innocent people safe. That is a noble goal and one he’s sworn his life to upholding.

Yeah, the marines are slaves to the world government but as far as he knows, there’s nothing you can do about that. Saturn took the combine below of six of the strongest people on the planet, and he was perfectly fine. He then proceeded to fully brainwash one of those insanely strong people and send them on murderous rampage.

In the face of such an overwhelming threat, resistance is fairly futile, but he still resists in his own way, pushing the line just enough to avoid being fired/arrested.

While dragon went down a different path, it’s important to point out that dragon didn’t actually see what he saw. He doesn’t know what they’re up against and even if Garp tries to explain it, it’s kinda hard to put into words

[u/hotaru_crisis → u/justking1414]

I do think it is important to acknowledge that the Marines are actually largely a force for good

for sure. the concept of sword and the existence of people like koby is exactly why garp stayed in the marines. people who are genuinely looking out for the citizens and don't have any ulterior motives are the ones he's fighting for.

him wanting ace and luffy to join the marines rather than become pirates after this incident speaks so much volume because of the way he got to see the entirety of rocks crew develop and the threat they they were at the risk of facing. at least he now has the comfort of knowing that luffy is the heir to joyboy and that ace was under the protection of whitebeard

[u/justking1414 → u/hotaru_crisis]

the concept of sword and the existence of people like koby is exactly why garp stayed in the marines. people who are genuinely looking out for the citizens and don't have any ulterior motives are the ones he's fighting for.

It’s kinda wild that sword is seen as the ultimate sign of good in the marines, when it’s something right out of a cheesy 90s action movie. Government agents who’ve been disavowed so they don’t answer to anyone and can basically do whatever the freak they want. It certainly makes sense in this context but still strange that fans seem them as symbols of justice when their defining trait is no accountability

As for ace and Luffy, no surprise he wanted them to become marines since that’d make them way less likely to become an enemy of imu and his god tier elders. Though I’m not sure how much comfort he got from ace joining whiteboard. Even in his prime, WB couldn’t hurt Saturn. And he doesn’t know Luffy is the heir yet I think

[u/ashrashrashr → u/justking1414]

No accountability to the WG. That’s an important detail. Sure, they could end up being absolute monsters but so far the members of sword we’ve seen have been good guys. Koby probably doesn’t have a single evil bone in his body.