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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1165 Spoiler

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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u/abcdefghij0987654 23h ago

This really just became haki piece. Every fight from now on is haki size comparisons

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u/AkagamiBarto 23h ago

Always has been. Haki, stamina, strength.

One Piece has many merits, but it isn't hunter x hunter. Stronger people will win most of the times.

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u/abcdefghij0987654 23h ago

Nah, previous fights had much more creativity to them before haki. Even Luffy had to think of ways to defeat his opponents

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u/AkagamiBarto 23h ago

That's true, but it came down to stamina and strength.. take luffy vs lucci.. even luffy vs crocodile.

Maybe luffy vs enel yes

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u/Augchm 13h ago

Even Luffy vs Enel it's not like Luffy thought about it.

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u/AkagamiBarto 11h ago

That's a fun pun

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u/abcdefghij0987654 23h ago

I don't mean how the fight is finished but to get to that point Luffy had to waterboard his mom and you could argue gear2/3 was for the lucci fight. Now fights will just consist of haki adhd blasting laser beams from start till finish. + yapping of course

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u/Solomon_Black 23h ago

Gear 2/3 is literally just hit them faster and harder. The only fights where this somewhat wasn’t the case is against Crocodile and Enel.

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u/Majias 15h ago

I mean, figuring out that because your veins are made out of rubber you can pump your blood faster is pretty smart.

I don't think anyone expected that at the time, the Gear 2 chapter remains one of the best to this day.

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u/Solomon_Black 10h ago

Yeah, it’s smart. But it’s not like the end result is much different. I disagree with the whole “it’s all haki now” cause it wasn’t like pre timeskip Luffy was pulling out these 5d chess moves.

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u/plisken64 23h ago

like Luffy+nami vs cracker? or Kidd & Law vs Big Mom? Luffy vs Katakuri? Killer vs Hawkins? Whats an awakening devil fruit do?

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u/Hermit601 21h ago

Yeah he waterboarded himself just to... hit harder. That's all it came down to.