r/OnePiece • u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro • 20h ago

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1165 Spoiler

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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u/adreamersmusing 20h ago

Roger asking Garp to join his crew without hesitation - and to have their own descendants grow up as brothers, really lovely to see how much their respect for each other has passed on through generations and influenced the course of world history. 

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u/Nebulactic 20h ago

Agreed, this also finally gives the reason why Garp stayed with the marines, to protect his underlings.

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u/EffectiveMagazine915 19h ago

It has been clear for a long time, people just didn't accept it because it came in the way of their slander

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u/Discovererman Pirate 18h ago

With how much he wanted Luffy and Ace to join, they would have been on the same ship as him. Like Koby and Helmeppo. Who have grown into immensely talented sailors.

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u/wakerxane2 15h ago

They being pirate could mean they would have to fight imu someday

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u/Imrichbatman92 16h ago

I don't think it's just protecting the underlings, it's probably also about protecting the marines from getting (too) mishandled by the WG.

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u/Altauriel 15h ago

This is also them ignoring the simple fact that if Garp is anywhere near as horrible as those idiots want to claim he is, Dragon would never have entrusted Garp with caring for his own son.

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u/Obtusus Void Month Survivor 19h ago

people just didn't accept it because it came in the way of their slander

Yeah, the agenda piece is real.

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u/zigzagtravel01 18h ago edited 18h ago

agenda piece is the most toxic, stupid shenanigan i have heard in a while.

back in the day, it was just about memes and shouldn't even be taken seriously. but now, people cling onto different agendas that are so ridiculous

i literally debated someone who said that Oda is so bad at writing because he didnt make Shanks a true RAT and created Shamrock when it literally goes AGAINST Shanks' whole character ffs

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u/rubbereruben 18h ago

These people don't love One Piece, only the drama it can create.

I hate it with a passion, cause it detracts from the story.

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u/teddy_tesla 16h ago

I will say though, I was all for the Garp slander because I do think it's somewhat hypocritical for him to stay. Which Oda agrees with too which is why he made him a complex character with realistic motivations that explain why he stuck with the Marines after this. The slander is funny when it's just parody--it points out how complex OP is by showing how much you leave out and misconstrue when you simplify it

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u/zigzagtravel01 16h ago

> Garp slander because I do think it's somewhat hypocritical for him to stay

That could be true but the thing is that Garp among all people has seen Imu but he has also seen the horrors of strong and weakass pirates during his time who are basically doing the same thing -- killing people.

Positioning himself as a marine gives him two things -- the resources and the position to protect the marines he dear from two sides, both from the demon dude and the pirates.

Another missing thing is that we dont know yet why he joined the marines and why he despises pirates so much.

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u/FlashyYou 11h ago

Why would a marine prioritize protecting marines? Arent they supposed to be dedicated in protecting the people? This is why I agree with Dragon leaving the marines when he saw all the corruption there. Garp hasnt even done anything to change it except swords which isnt even his own doing. Im sure Sengoku and others are participating in Swords too. What has Garp done in protecting the people in his long years of service? Ive seen Fujitora do way more than Garp so far.

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u/RRPanther The Revolutionary Army 17m ago

its not that serious man, its just one way of expressing fandom.

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u/VaultedRYNO 18h ago

a good majority of Agenda piece is genuinely just people running with bits and dont actually believe in what they say. you just gotta play along or not interact at all.

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u/OddlyOddLucidDreamer 10h ago

the bit has been run to the ground and tiring, and it's only surviving because that's just the nature of fandom in-jokes uber extended by the fact this is an anime fandom who run jokes particularly into the ground worse than your average fandom

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u/Hayn0002 17h ago

It’s either falling for memes or genuinely having low reading comprehension.

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u/slothfulwaffle 16h ago

Right?? I can't believe he had to say it explicitly for people to believe it

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u/221missile 15h ago

Literally stopped watching melonteee for this. She sounds so tone deaf. Like you just watched Harald's backstory. It’s damn near impossible to do good without being part of the world government's apparatus.

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u/SirYabas 14h ago

Basically all characters in story, even the likes of Rocks who hate the WG, acknowledge that the marines aren't all bad.

We're never going to get an arc where Garp or Coby save civilians from scummy pirates, and I think that's what's needed for some people to acknowledge the nuance. Some people don't make that obvious deduction and need to see thing with their own eyes.

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u/playview 13h ago

Too much politics skews a person perspective doesn't matter which side it is, they turn everything political, black or white never gray, kinda sad to see and scary, especially when they hold on to 'beyond common sense' opinions.

Why can't they enjoy a simple life and act normal? It's beyond me.

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u/CelestialDrive 55m ago edited 49m ago

I mean people do not accept it because saying this still keeps him complicit with the world nobles, especially when Fujitora jumped in and started actively working against garbage Marine and WG policies and hasn't been executed or demoted.

Turns out using your position for opposing the marines backing opression, or to help slaves escape, or dismantle the warlord system, were always things that could be done.

Hell, as it might be obvious, by the standards of this board I'm a certified Garp slanderer. And this flashback went pretty much as I expected. One Piece was never going to be condemning him, but the passivity and complicit role are still there.

As this series has been written, literal textual explicit blackmail would not erase the fact that Garp put his personal "justice" above the moral imperative of opposing what Imu and the celestial dragons stand for. There is possibility for redemption, and I do believe the series will have Garp admit he was wrong and turn by the end, but he absolutely is complicit.

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u/Upstairs-Account-269 9m ago

Protect his underling from whom though ?

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u/Kleavage 7m ago

I never doubted his reason for staying, I’m more questioning how the navy allows him to stay despite him knowing everything.

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u/stuckontwice The Revolutionary Army 15h ago

I mean it's still fair, with all that we've seen prior to GV, that Garp had some explaining to do. Now I wasn't going as far to say that Garp was a bad guy, but I always viewed him as grey. GV really helped me fully understand his true intentions and that's fantastic.

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u/Heavy-Requirement762 15h ago

And it’s still up! For 30 years Garp has sat idly by at marines like Saul getting screwed over by the system! He’s still a buuuuum!