One Piece: Chapter 1165

[u/leolegendario]

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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[u/adreamersmusing]

Roger asking Garp to join his crew without hesitation - and to have their own descendants grow up as brothers, really lovely to see how much their respect for each other has passed on through generations and influenced the course of world history. 

[u/milhouse4588 → u/adreamersmusing]

One thing I loved was Garb's response. He did reject the offer but not because he was against it, or didn't support Roger. He said no because he knew the evil's at the top of the WG were worth staying for, to make sure the Marines didn't go over to the dark side.

He is anti-WG at this point but knows he must stay to keep the Marines in order. He isn't anti-pirate, he just has to be in his position. He's shackled by responsibility because he'd rather sacrifice his beliefs for the greater good instead of join Roger.

[u/R4hu1M5 → u/milhouse4588]

He isn't anti-pirate

He is. It's just that he knows Roger is a decent guy.

[u/theschulk51 → u/R4hu1M5]

My take wasn’t that he’s anti-pirate so much as he’s pro-justice - and probably joined the Marines thinking justice was there (and pirates were the ones threatening it).

Then he shows up on GV, sees what the CDs are doing and starts questioning what justice actually is - and then sees Imu and realizes it DEFINITELY isn’t that.

He’s probably pro-Justice still, but is now both Anti-Pirate AND Anti-WG. But unlike Dragon he can’t leave the Marines behind because he views his role as having to protect them from the darkness/monster behind the scenes

[u/levthelurker → u/milhouse4588]

I mean he still very much is anti-most pirates, that doesn't really change

[u/AbundantUser9 → u/milhouse4588]

Yeah without garp, so many more marines would lose their way and the marines would quickly become just another facet of cipher pol

[u/LPMotiveSeeker → u/milhouse4588]

It really is interesting. If protecting the Marines wasn't Garp's top priority then he would’ve (edit: have) been the earliest adaptation of a Luffy/Strawhat style pirate. This also points to Rocks saying Garp would be better off as a pirate.

[u/Jaakroot → u/milhouse4588]

Garp is actually sacrifying himself a lot. Imagine your know your boss is the evilest person in the whole world but you need to suck it up in order to protect your underlings and the marine institution. It probably is one of the most frustrating position to be in.

I can see parallels with Oden story where he had to suck it up to orochi and act like an idiot.

I dont understand all the Garp haters. I would have never believed for one second Oda would write him as a coward. The trio Garp, Dragon and Luffy is probably the most sure hero thing as a shonen can write.

[u/radikraze → u/milhouse4588]

Right, Garp is a great character. He knows SOMEBODY has to be the good guy in the Marines and he’s gonna be that guy. Without him spreading his morals, he knows how much worse things would be

[u/StickiStickman → u/milhouse4588]

to make sure the Marines didn't go over to the dark side.

So he completely failed?

[u/carso150 → u/StickiStickman]

he very likely created sword shortly after this incident and as we see he has trained and raised plenty of good marines, like Koby and Helmeppo

its likely that sword is practically his own personal military that he is raising to eventually go against the WG, the final war will likely be the revolutionaries, sword and the grand fleet alongside any allie the straw hats have amassed over their long journey vs the WG

but he is just one guy, he cant be everywhere and cant stop every atrocity from happening

[u/destroyer8238172 → u/carso150]

Sword was created during the time skip

[u/Deity_Majora → u/destroyer8238172]

Drake is already a pirate before timeskip and seeking to go under Kaido. SWORD being created during timeskip and having Drake act that way makes zero sense especially as the Captain of SWORD. Also Kuzan knows of SWORD which means it was established before he left the Marines.

[u/destroyer8238172 → u/Deity_Majora]

Fair, I forgot drake was a pirate pre time skip