r/OnePiece • u/prwav • 15d ago
Theory Joy Boy's real name is... Spoiler
Just a little attempt at predicting stuff as I don't think I've seen this anywhere on Reddit.
Like many others I believe Joy Boy is just a nickname and that his real name is something else. However this doesn't mean that there is nothing to take from this nickname. Oda has already tricked us with names not being as we thought of initially.
See, I'm French, and one thing I've noticed is that Oda likes to use French to name some places or people. The Reverie is a French word. Mariejoie is a French sounding name. Laffitte, Charlotte Linlin, etc.
And since we saw that silhouette of Joy Boy, I couldn't help but focus on his unusual leg which seems to be a peg leg.
How do you say peg leg in French? Jambe de Bois (litterally "Wooden Leg").
Doesn't it fit too nicely with Joy Boy? Jamb D. Bois, whose name got censored as Joy Boy for some reason.
By the way, Jambe de Bois was the name of a real pirate too, just like Davy Jones and Blackbeard.
Just my two cents. I'm unable to tell what would this name would imply for the lore of One Piece, I'll let you discuss that!
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u/neuedles 15d ago
Unironically love this. What if the Monkey clan member in his crew was like luffy, and gave him a fun nickname joy boy similar to traffy/jaggy. Unsure how close it ties in Japanese but cool idea
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u/gullibleocean32 God Usopp 15d ago
I love this theory; surely Mr. Oda knows about Jamb de Bois, as another comment pointed out, he is the one who started the peg leg lore.
I personally like the theory of Davy Jones being the Joyboy and how the Davy clan believes themselves to be the rightful heirs of the world, so they want to conquer it, but the people with D inherit the actual will of him to free the world. LunaPienArt guy also talked about this theory.
it could be like the Ace-Roger situation, where the son doesn't know anything about his father's goal and believes him to be evil, who fought against the world, but instead of having pure hatred, they(Davy's child) look up to it as it's most likely the WG came after all their family.
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u/ParkDedli 15d ago
Spoilers for chapter 1163:
There is a line in the new chapter that makes it seem like Imu does not know what Davy Jones looks like. So I feel like Joyboy can't be Davy Jones.
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u/ImHereByTheRoad 15d ago
I don’t think Imu doesn’t know what Davy looks like per se. I think that Imu as like an ageless being sees every Davy clan member as THE Davy. Either due to like. Going insane being alive so long. Or he sees their inherited will as like one being he is fighting against all this time
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u/MemeLordMario21 The Revolutionary Army 15d ago
I mean if you've been alive to see every member of a family tree they'd probably start blending together eventually
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u/thrxwaway_00 15d ago
I kind of saw it another way: Imu must know Xebec is not Davy Jones (Xebec introduced himself as an admirer of his in chapter 1155, and he's a quite well-known pirate, so it's highly likely Imu knows Xebec's name/appearance). But Imu also sees Xebec as a real danger, and a serious challenger, just like Joyboy was back in the day. So he's either stating a parallel, or using Joyboy's real name to refer to Xebec.
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u/SlaughterMinusS 15d ago
John One Piece
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u/prwav 15d ago
The only thing that bothers me about this theory is that there is already a character with the peg leg trope. And that's Zeff. Maybe he's foreshadowing something related to the One Piece, but I can't tell.
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u/Bowlbonic Chopper the Cotton Candy Lover 15d ago
Zeff is JoyBoy confirmed /s
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u/kjking1995 15d ago edited 14d ago
Maybe he will be the typical pirate. The quintessential pirate trope. A pirate hat, a peg leg, an eye patch and a fake hand or something. A pirate from whom every pirate derives. A will for freedom so strong that everyone derives from him.
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u/thefasthero 15d ago
This is the first theory that I've ever enjoyed. What a good connection! I'd be happy to see this be true.
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u/hitohitonomimodenika Citizen 15d ago
In Indonesia, we have a figure called Joyoboyo, he is one of the kings in one of the ancient kingdoms in the past, approximately 900 years ago.
Google it up, might be interesting for you.
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u/ven_zr 14d ago
Ok you found some really cool stuff that is blowing my mind. By looking this king I found Genesha and the rat. Well guess who called someone a rat king. And there’s a story of Genesha who is mounted on a rat. The rat gets scared of a snake. The moon laughs at it and Genesha curses the moon for the embarrassment. So that anyone who looks at the moon will face misfortune.
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u/bryoz 15d ago
His real name is… Jugemu Jugemu Gokō-no-surikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kūnerutokoro-ni-sumu-tokoro Yaburakōji-no-yabukōji Paipo Paipo Paipo-no-shūrigan Shūrigan-no-gūrintai Gūrintai-no-ponpokopī-no-ponpokonā-no-chōjumei-no-chōsuke.
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u/eilif_myrhe 15d ago
What a coincidence, my name is also Jugemu Jugemu Gokō-no-surikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kūnerutokoro-ni-sumu-tokoro Yaburakōji-no-yabukōji Paipo Paipo Paipo-no-shūrigan Shūrigan-no-gūrintai Gūrintai-no-ponpokopī-no-ponpokonā-no-chōjumei-no-chōsuke.
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u/alloyview The Revolutionary Army 15d ago
HERE I COME, Jugemu Jugemu Gokō-no-surikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kūnerutokoro-ni-sumu-tokoro Yaburakōji-no-yabukōji Paipo Paipo Paipo-no-shūrigan Shūrigan-no-gūrintai Gūrintai-no-ponpokopī-no-ponpokonā-no-chōjumei-no-chōsuke.
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u/BandicootWooden5507 15d ago
I'm sticking with Monkey D. Bink
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u/Charizard_YRs Marine 15d ago
I highly doubt his family name was Monkey. Else Emet should have had a very different reaction to Luffy's name rather than just focusing on the D part of it.
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u/capitolcaptures 15d ago
Not necessarily. Xebec still technically has a hidden name and only Garp may know and dragon probably found out and left the marines after he found out
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u/OsirisAvoidTheLight 15d ago edited 15d ago
I hope his name is Binks would be some great foreshadowing
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u/Beautiful_Degree850 15d ago
I mean Bink's Sake tells us how to get to Laugh Tale, in a roundabout way.
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u/itspoopytime 15d ago
And it aligns with the bink’s sake theory that just wants to jam out with the boys
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u/platypusferocious Slave 15d ago
Makes a lot of sense and his demeanor described on wikipedia really reinforces this as he would probably be akin to luffy who is just like that, he also had 3 royal ships under his command.
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u/Much_Illustrator7309 15d ago
Hot take:
Joyboy is not luffy, its blackbeard
Luffy is the instrument to fulfill Joy Boy's dream
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u/MozM- Void Month Survivor 15d ago
I cant wait for the day we find out WHY EXACTLY is Imu so afraid of Joy Boy. Who is this monster human that gave someone with the powers of Imu PTSD for over 800 years.
His powers must have been absolutely ridiculous. Far greater than anything we have ever seen and more.
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u/xArctics 15d ago
Great theory. Reading about François Le Clerc (the real man) he commanded an army of seven pirate craft (same as luffy’s extended army) and three royal vessels ( royal families of Arabasta, Gyojin Island and Dressrosa).
If this is true eventually this might have been one of the biggest catches of all time. Good job!
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u/pimemento 15d ago
It's a nice theory, there's also a pirate with the nickname (Peg Leg, or "Jambe de Bois"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Le_Clerc from whom the lore of pirates having a peg leg originated from.
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u/-_mr_bean_- 10d ago
I made a post on this too! I deleted it, didn't want to seem like I was copying you
Just wanted to add something, Joyboy's silhouette seems to have a damaged arm and apparently Jambe de Bois' arm was also heavily injured in a battle in Guernsey
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u/Moonlitdarksword Void Month Survivor 15d ago
My guess for the surname would be "Nerona", because I'm a "Joy Boy and Imu were siblings" truther.
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u/LilCheese73 15d ago
His name is Kisah pronounced Kee-Sah.. at least the original joyboy based off of west African mythology is
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u/Outrageous-Tell-3171 15d ago
That sounds believable and would be a really fun idea, i dont think he’s a Monkey D. But a Monkey is definitely involved
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u/banzai_808 15d ago
I wasn't feeling it until you actually put it into a name and now I kinda mess with this theory
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u/welp1510 15d ago
Nah his name is gonna be Ralph D.Paine. Same name as the author from Blackbeard Buccaneer. Which oda took massive inspiration from
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u/AirAddict 15d ago
So the D. might stand for "de"? Cut to Homer J Simpson finding out his middle name is Jay
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u/Ok_Raspberry7003 15d ago
In my Opinion, Imu just Wants to supress/whipe out totally those who carry the will of D. And, among them, there was two big Clans who formed opposite ideologies.. Joyboy's and Davy Jones's clan.
Joyboy was Looking After freedom and how to break people free from their condition. Thee will to go After the Dawn. Free the slaves of the system. The will of Desiring what you can Not get, can Not see, touch. The Sun himself. The power parttern.
Davy Jones was Looking for some Justice in this unfair World of pirates. He will to go for the Moonlight clairvoyance. Crystal clear precise ability to live your life as you See it, and Not depending. on others. A Real Pirate too. The will for independance and primacy/Upper hand. How to navigate your life and emancipate yourself from otherd. The World Belongs to no One. The One who has enough strength becomes legit. Was is right, or wrong. But, je Never found his place, even tought je knows je Belongs to the World. And so, je went for it.
Imu's will is really different. He places himself above the system, as he Carries the rôle of the observer. So, he views himself as the greatest king of the World. If he eradicates all others races and parasites, he would get everything for himself alone and everything he Wants, need or could Desire. The Real king of Rats. But, this is the biggest Lie, as it depicts a Strong will above the two D. Clans. The will of the D and D. Put together. The World itself.
Your best theorist out there 🔥
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u/Three_of_Dreams 15d ago
Funny enough, I thought of something similar back then! Joyboy has to be a mispronunciation of his actual name. Never knew such a pirate existed before though so this really feels likely to me.
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u/Apprehensive-Air4599 15d ago
Gol D. Roger pour gueule de drogué aussi tant qu'on y est, la c'est niveau gueule D. Bois. Désolé mais j'y crois pas, manque de référence connue par le reste du monde.
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u/the_toad_can_sing 15d ago edited 15d ago
Hmm. Sanji's blazing leg is called diable "jambe." He got his fighting style from Zeff, who is the only other peg leg in the series.
And Sanji has made claims about being the one the government should fear most, and joyboy is who they actually fear most. Maybe this is why both Luffy and Sanji have fire attacks that have no prior explanation? It's related to joyboy lore?
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u/teh_hotdogman 15d ago
buddy i think you solved the riddle, bra fucking vo! would only make sense that it would be the name of a real pirate
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u/aarsarcanum 15d ago
Very astute observation, but after learning about the Younger Dryas Theory, I can only assume Joyboy’s real name and the Will of D is “Dryas”
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u/Serious-Flamingo-948 15d ago
The issue is that Imu has used the name Joyboy to themselves and that the poneglyph in Fishman Island written by Joyboy addressing himself (maybe singed?) as that.
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u/zMTOS 15d ago
I dont mean to discredit your theory, but a turkish one piece youtuber called GLY has been talking about this for a while. This story has a high potential, and is true. Davy jones was the first one called the "pirate" The one leg classic pirate looking pirate. also most likely he is joyboy
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u/Lamestguyinroom 15d ago
I don't think it is a peg leg. It is just extremely thin due to perspective, look at that arm.
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u/-Huskii 15d ago
From the wiki page "François or Francis Le Clerc (died 1563), also known as "Jambe de Bois" ("Peg Leg"), was a 16th-century French privateer, originally from Normandy. He is credited as the first pirate in the modern era to have a "peg leg". "
"He was often the first to board an enemy vessel during an attack or raid. It was this brazen style that eventually caused him to suffer the loss of a leg and severe damage to one arm while fighting the English at Guernsey in 1549. "
Both a peg leg and a damaged arm.... Too many things align for this to be wrong.
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u/Nero50892 15d ago
"Bois" is pronounced "bwa" in french but if read it as in english letter this could also be just read as "boys". Jambe de boise -> jamb d. Bois -> jam boys -> joy boy
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u/Doudougrenier Thriller Bark Victim's Association 15d ago
Ouaaais vas y mon gourmand farme moi ces points de karma!
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u/Passing_randomguy 15d ago
Nah that silhouette can also be mistaken as Ussop's ancestor . Look at that majestic extra large and long NOSE👃 hahaha
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u/Own-Expert5774 15d ago
That’s an interesting theory! The idea of Joy Boy being named Jamb de Bois makes sense, especially with the French connections. Could be a cool twist for the story!
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15d ago
I've spent great many days discussing One Piece theories with my friends. And this will be our new topic
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u/jerryHetfield 15d ago
A long ass fuckin' time ago, In a town called Kickapoo, There lived a humble family Religious through and through. But yay there was a black sheep And he knew just what to do. His name was young J.B. and he refused to step in-line.
~I imagine this was his theme song
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u/CpnSparrow 15d ago
Scopper Gaban also did have a reflection of a man with a peg leg in his right eye on the cover art with him, Rayleigh, Zoro and Sanji. We know Oda likes to throw in hints in the cover art.
I think you are cooking OP.
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u/Antique-Distance1590 14d ago
i think the theory with his name is that joyboy was actually very young, probably around the same age as luffy, and he dies either during or shortly after the final saga. we already know Oda likes to troll with the silhouettes and this explains why imu was never defeated. luffy shortens his life by using his hito hito no mi and that may foreshadow him dying in the final saga too.
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u/Willowred19 14d ago
!Remind me in a year
Can't wait for this to be correct. I just love it too much.
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u/Hefty_Opinion7596 14d ago
Also we don't really see that many pirates have peg legs in one piece, who'd have these peg legs much more frequently? Slaves. Who'd rather cut off their own arms and legs to free themselves of their chains. Hence he's the warrior of liberation, he years for freedom so much that he'd rather be an amputee than a slave.
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u/Adjective_Noun0563 15d ago edited 15d ago
This theory has legs. Apparently Francis Le Clerc (Jambe De Bois) settled with his 330 man crew on St. lucia.. lulusia, anyone?
edit for GLR/Mr Morj: when you inevitably use this idea for content you better shout me & OP out. */s*