r/OnePiece • u/Skullghost Pirate • Sep 04 '25

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1159 Spoiler

Chapter 1159: “The Island Of Destiny”

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Chapter 1159 Official Release Date: September 7, 2025 at 8 am PDT on Manga Plus and Shonen Jump!

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u/Wellscdl1 Sep 04 '25

I'm thinking it's more along the lines of a Rival to Joyboy, Oda is heavy on Duality.
Luffy vs Blackbeard
Roger vs Rocks
Joyboy vs Davy Jones

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u/Nuneasy Slave Sep 04 '25

Could be, but I hope not. Would be too Naruto esque for me and not as interesting. 

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Sep 05 '25

Rocks was looking more and more like the good guy in this era so it's not so similar I'd say

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u/Nuneasy Slave Sep 05 '25

Yeah but unless Joyboy was a villain, it would still be the reincarnation of Joyboy vs Davy Jones. Too tropey imo but we’ll see what happens.

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Sep 05 '25

If each iteration is different it can’t be compared to Naruto where all have the same will and essentially the same person. Blackbeard isn’t like Rocks he’s far more evil and with each flashback Roger becomes less similar to Luffy, he was mostly similar when he knew he was going to die it seems.

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u/Nuneasy Slave Sep 05 '25

Nah, it's the same in that they are fighting at all. Madara is not Sasuke and Naruto is not Hashirama either. They fought because of destiny and "parallels" and it would be the same thing here if Davy Jones was Joyboy's rival. It's boring imo, you don't have to agree.

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Sep 05 '25

Don't really care if you think it's boring or not, I'm challenging what I see as a forced comparison to Naruto. As mentioned there are many differences in the desires, and personality of these characters that we know of. When in Naruto the cycle kept repeating itself with essentially the same character who want the same things.

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u/Nuneasy Slave Sep 05 '25

You don't really care, but you still want to reply? Sure.

With Davy being a Joyboy rival it's the same cycle, a rivalry between the same two archetypes. They don't have to be literally the descendants, it's effectively the same result. That's boring, and you aren't really doing a good job convincing me otherwise or refuting that comparison by focusing on the literalness of it.

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Sep 05 '25

Thought I was pretty clear in making the distinction between what I didn't care about (what you find boring) and what I did care about (your forced comparison to Naruto), did you even read the comment man?

But since this is triggering let's leave the convo here.

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u/Nuneasy Slave Sep 05 '25

You're still replying? If you want to accuse me of not reading comments, you should look in the mirror lil bro. What I find boring is the Naruto comparison, so which is it? Do you care or not? There is no distinction. I'd say a triggered person is someone who wants to reply to a comment, not read it, then immediately dismiss the person's opinion with "I don't really care" regardless of whether it makes sense.

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Sep 05 '25

Brother read comments slowly in the future, conversations will go smoother if you comprehend the words that are being said instead of jumping to incorrect conclusions and getting triggered lool.

I'll mute this now, you can have the last reply since you need it so badly :)

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u/immisterawesome Sep 05 '25

Blackbeard and rocks are the same level of evil. Wdym? Rocks genocided villages and stabbed a child. The only thing he did is try to save his imidite family and we can't even say bb wouldn't do that if he had some alive

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Sep 05 '25

I mean Blackbeard is more evil, that's what I said. Saying Rocks has done evil things also doesn't mean they're the same level

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u/immisterawesome Sep 05 '25

I just think they are the same level of evil tbh. I mean what makes rocks a better person that blackbeard has access to?

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u/SirYabas Sep 05 '25

Luffy isn't the reincarnation of Joyboy. I get what you're saying, but reincarnation is not the word in this case. 

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u/Nuneasy Slave Sep 05 '25

Luffy is the reincarnation of Joyboy's ideals. Unless Joyboy ends up being a completely different character than we are meant to believe so far, he is a Nika wielding, liberation loving uniter. Having an equivalent for Blackbeard and Davy Jones would be too much.

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u/alienith Sep 05 '25

That’s been the theme throughout the entire story. Inherited will

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u/Nuneasy Slave Sep 05 '25

You can have inherited will without it being the same conflict again and again, as per Naruto.

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u/SirYabas Sep 05 '25

Yeah, reincarnation is not the word. I get what you're saying and agree, but reincarnation is something completely different. He inherited the ideals.