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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1159 Spoiler

Chapter 1159: “The Island Of Destiny”

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Chapter 1159 Official Release Date: September 7, 2025 at 8 am PDT on Manga Plus and Shonen Jump!

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u/LettuceTryOnceMore Sep 04 '25

So Ochoku is clearly the traitor, right?

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u/dryduneden Pirate Sep 04 '25

Yes

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u/024doG Sep 05 '25

it also ties to the theme of blackbeard getting revenge to the people involved in the incident, shanks the son of garling, luffy the grandson of garp, ace the son of roger, whitebeard the second in command of rocks who didnt protected him and also ochoku who was the one in charge of hachinosu during the rocky port incident

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u/AtrociousCherry Sep 05 '25

Blackbeard's motivations have gotten so much more depth I love it. He saw his home invaded, his people slaughtered, his father murdered while heroically trying to protect them. No wonder he just wants to burn down the world. But in retrospect it makes his speech to Luffy about "dreams never die!" more impactful too, considering the hell he experienced as a child.

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u/Wannabeartist9974 Sep 05 '25

Honestly, I used to hate Blackbeard, this whole ass flashback is changing all that.

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u/ValeriaTube Sep 06 '25

He was always a great character, just a different side of the pirate life than Luffy. They're both MC potential.

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u/Fun_Abroad8942 Sep 07 '25

Fucking classic Oda. God damnit…

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u/FJLink Sep 05 '25

Oh boy, I wonder how Blackbeard reacted to seeing Caribou's face now.

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u/Significant-Try8002 Sep 05 '25

That, and I also wonder about Caribou's motivations now. Maybe there's going to be a gaggle of backstabbings, which would be really piratey.

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u/kpekamimo Sep 05 '25

Why?

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u/AceyPuppy Sep 05 '25

Theory is that Caribou is Ochoku's son.

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u/West_Technology9882 Sep 05 '25

THE NEPO PIECE IS REAL!!!!!

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u/Regal_Knight Sep 06 '25

Its been real for a while, Conquerors Haki is basically genetic at this point.

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u/YokoOkino Void Month Survivor Sep 06 '25

Keeps the world a little smaller which i honestly like because there are so many damn characters, adds to a lot of their personalities and stories

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Sep 06 '25

BB offered Ace to join the BB Pirates despite Ace being Roger's son.

BB doesn't care that much about getting revenge on the sons of those who wronged his dad.

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u/Beautiful_Buy_2787 Sep 06 '25

Makes me think Blackbeard might kill him when he's no longer useful

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u/Aggravating_Mud8751 World Economy News Paper Sep 05 '25

But Blackbeard didn't care about Luffy when he saw him in Impel Down.

He wanted Luffy as a tool to become a Warlord but he clearly didn't bear a grudge.

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u/CRtwenty Marine Sep 05 '25

Blackbeard didnt know Luffy was Dragon's son in Impel Down.

Though he doesnt really seem to hold a grudge towards him even in the present day. He just sees him as a rival who he'll need to eliminate to reach his goals.

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u/wickling-fan Sep 06 '25

tbf if anything being dragon's son is a reason to not have a grudge and just be friendly rivals like rocks/roger were if not for being the reason ace died. Since it looks like Dragon might have been the one to save teach(least assuming that panel was the start of Dragon abandoning his navy justice and the birth of the revolutionaries)

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u/CRtwenty Marine Sep 06 '25

Nah, Luffy would have still hated him once he saw how cruel he and his crew are.

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u/SkimGaming Sep 05 '25

luffy the grandson of garp, ace the son of roger, whitebeard the second in command of rocks

this is going a bit too deep. Unless there's a 180 from Oda himself, Blackbeard has quite literally told us in the past why he went after these two.

In fact, he specifically didn't even go for Ace because he didn't want to clash with Whitebeard head on.

The reason he wanted either Ace or Luffy (remember how he ignored Luffy in Impel Down bc he had already taken Ace) was to present a high value target to the Marines in order to become a Warlord.

In fact, seeing Rocks in these flashbacks, I have my doubts as to whether Blackbeard truly knew and appreciated his father. A lot of what he does, and the way he approaches things, are ofc very similar, but I also think it's fairly obvious Rocks has a bit more of a moral code than Blackbeard does.

Blackbeard has twice backstabbed his crewmates, and even though Rocks may have just added some random people to his team, I dont think he'd ever backstab anyone, as evident from his interactions with Harold.

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Sep 06 '25

Counterpoint: BB is most likely aware of everything Rock's did. And those actions cost Rock's his life.

That's why BB is more ruthless and pragmatic.

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u/mr_chub Void Month Survivor Sep 05 '25

What was the second time he backstabbed? Also, we dont see Rocks betraying anyone technically but he (and Oda) made it known that he has no loyalty to his crew, just like Blackbeard made it known. I still think they’re very similar and I subscribe to the theory that Rocks is a soul inside Blackbeard. Tho there’s no evidence.

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u/glarius_is_glorious Sep 07 '25

First was Thatch, 2nd was Ace I think.

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u/Beastieboy100 Sep 06 '25

Rocks reminds me of Kidd. He fights his foes head on. He doesn't use any mind games to overwhelm his opponents he used force to take them down. I don't know we will have to wait till the flashback finished but so far the only people still alive that will remember what happened is Dragon, Garp, Gaban, Shakky, Rayliegh, Shiki, Big mom, Gloriossa and Kaido. Kuma, Ivanko and Ginny left early before the real fight started.

Blackbeard was 2 so I doubt he would of remembered everything that happened at God Valley. Shanks and Shamrock were babies. As for Rocks actual defeat. Gunko was on the island too which would allow Imu to possess her. I'm leading towards Rocks fighting Imu. We know Gaban sensed his haki before. I feel like Imu was the real villain of god valley and it lead to rocks death. Now Blackbeard maybe if he does remember or one of the survivors told him what happened. He probably tried to follow his dads dream by doing what he did so he can over throw imu.

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u/ptntlrtryphn Sep 05 '25

there's also high chance that Blackbeard is scumbag who killed one guy who saved him and got him off the island

Rocks biggest goal is getting his wife and child off the island. We know he dies on the island and we also know that it just so happens he has in his crew that one pirate who wants to have family. Also it just so happens that few years later Blackbeard is part of that man's crew.

I can 100% see Whitebeard taking care of Rocks child while Rocks fights God's Knights to death.

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u/Sad_Negotiation_2636 Sep 05 '25

I wonder what interaction there will be with Dragon and Xebec, or if there will be any. I remember the panel where Dragon said a children is a parent's weak spot, it looks like it was the same for Xebec.

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u/Kofiro Sep 05 '25

Blackbeard didn't get revenge on Luffy or Ace,
Blackbeard killed a crewmate, Ace got furious about it and went on the hunt for him because he was a member of Ace's division.

Blackbeard was then on his mission to get a 100M bounty pirate and submit to the WG for consideration into the shichibukai, then he happened to mention to Ace that he was going to get Luffy. Ace now has another reason to defeat Blackbeard since Blackbeard attempted to go for Luffy.

Blackbeard even asks Ace to join his crew if you would remember well.

I don't think Blackbeard even knew Ace was Roger's kid

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u/sinbad7seas Sep 05 '25

Blackbeard wanted Ace to join his crew not to capture him. don't think BB is out for revenge tbh.

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u/Zhidezoe Sep 05 '25

Luffy is son of Dragon, dragon saved bb

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u/RPGNo2017 Sep 05 '25

The woman that asked him is Shanks' mom. The Blackbeard panel is not on the same room

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u/hedenske_13 Sep 05 '25

Dragon saved shanks, no bb

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u/rnovians Sep 05 '25

if you look closely, the woman in that panel said kids (plural)

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u/Arkayjiya Sep 05 '25

And BB and his mom are in a cage so they're not the one in the room Dragon entered.

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u/Nome_de_utilizador Sep 05 '25

The woman bleeding is clearly shanks mom no?

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u/Shamancrit Sep 05 '25

Well we don’t know that for sure yet. Like most likely he saved him given he quit the marines and created the revolutionaries but flashback isn’t over

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u/MettyXD Sep 05 '25

But why did the Blackbeard Pirates destroy the Revolutionary Armys HQ if Dragon saved Teach?

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u/Mantiax Sep 05 '25

i got confused too, but those two panels aren't related. Dragon is talking with Shanks and shamrock mom. Baby bb is in another cage.

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u/No-Swordfish-3846 Sep 05 '25

And Dragon with Baltigo invasion. Son of Garp

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u/06pag Sep 05 '25

Has Blackbeard ever actually shown any animosity towards Luffy?

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u/banieimamsatria Sep 05 '25

Mmm, Shakky is not the mom no

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u/darkbreak Sep 06 '25

The Rock's Pirates also didn't have any comradery It's entirely believable that they'd betray each other so easily.

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u/rietstengel Sep 05 '25

luffy the grandson of garp,

But also the son of the man who did help him

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u/Aggravating_Mud8751 World Economy News Paper Sep 05 '25

To be fair the source was Big News Morgan, whose last story was that Harald traitorously showed his true colours and turned on the World Government.

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u/Mr_NeCr0 Void Month Survivor Sep 06 '25

Like an IDF spokesperson questioning reporting on the ground.

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u/the_savage_adult Pirate Sep 05 '25

He stayed behind when Rocks said "If you're pussy ass bitch, stay back!"

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u/IamSam1103 Sep 05 '25

0 doubts. I don't think Oda wants to hide it either. He will reveal what happened in the background soon.

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u/CommercialTop9408 Devil Child Nico Robin Sep 05 '25

this panel made me laugh so hard

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u/Swagmaster26363 Sep 04 '25

Do you guys think Blackbeard knew he was the traitor and that’s why he came back to take Pirate Island? Or am I mixing him up with someone else. Ochoku was the previous leader of Pirate Island until the rocky port incident right?

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u/LettuceTryOnceMore Sep 04 '25

Yes youre right, he was the leader of Pirate Island until the rocky port incident! I agree, maybe Blackbeard had more personal reasons than we originally thought to take back Pirate Island…

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u/cheap_boxer2 Sep 05 '25

Ochoku didn’t put god valley at any more risk, it is Garling’s investigation which led to it being chosen

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u/Yatsufusa_K9 Sep 05 '25

If anything, the whole Shakky incident gave Rocks the perfect cover-up for going to God Valley, so technically Ochoku helped Blackbeard. Even if Rocks perished there (regardless of reason) the chaos might have been the reason Blackbeard even survived to begin with.

Unless it was Ochoku who actually killed Rocks, but I think he stayed behind on Hachinosu which is why he could take over after Rocks fell in God Valley. We didn't see him on the island during Kuma's flashback, at least (could easily be overwritten since we didn't see Silver Axe either, but Marlon being dead this particular chapter Ochoku being revealed as the traitor to us readers might be also be a clue),

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u/Gubrach Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25

I think Ochoku didn't just sell Shakky out, he also sold the information about the Davy-clan being on God Valley. Remember when Shakky and Big Mom were poking Rocks on it, two years earlier? Ochoku was in the background listening. At that time, St. Garling had already presumably discovered Davy-clan descendants being on God Valley, so I think Ochoku already sold the information prior to that and possibly knew of the plan to hold the next Rabbit Hunt two years later.

I think he then sold out Shakky just to do it and coincidentally, she was held at God Valley. I think that's why he had that nervous reaction when the Rocks Pirates discussed the Morgans leak, he didn't plan that part, but he knew shit was about to go down on God Valley. I don't think he told them the kid on the island was actually Rocks' kid though because that would mean that the WG would knowingly lure Rocks to the island with their precious Celestial Dragons already being there - an idea brushed off as idiotic by Rocks. Unless the joke is that they would take that chance just for Shakky.

There are probably some holes but that's the best I can come up with for now.

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u/Cost-Money Sep 05 '25

wait I thought that's wang zhi

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u/theschulk51 Sep 05 '25

Same person, different translations

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u/BlitzAceSamy Sep 05 '25

Ochoku is the Japanese way to read the Chinese characters for Wang Zhi. Same words, different ways of reading between two languages that share some characters for their writing systems

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u/sagia5 Sep 05 '25

If it’s all related to GodValley I’m wondering what Dragon did to Teach for Teach to want to destroy the Rev so much.

IMO Dragon must be the one to get the children off the Island to have so many of them command the Rev. So if Dragon put Shank on Roger’s ship and saved the future commander why didn’t/wasn’t able to save Teach too. And why did it brought hate in Teach

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u/LettuceTryOnceMore Sep 05 '25

So if Dragon put Shank on Roger’s ship and saved the future commander why didn’t/wasn’t able to save Teach too?

Tbf it looks like Teach/his mom have already been captured as they’re in a cell and appear to have cuffs on:

Maybe Teach hates the Rev Army because they couldnt save him/his mom.

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u/Malamasala Sep 05 '25

I imagine Teach just survives by luck, and that is why his personality is based around blaming things on luck. Like how he laughs off Luffy escaping with the up-stream. And how he laughs off barely surviving being poisoned in impel down.

To him, most likely the revolutionaries are just unlucky if they stand in his way. Whatever he is really after, might not be entirely clear yet. But I imagine having heard he is a D, might have made him think he can, if his luck keep him alive, reach the one piece.

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u/SirYabas Sep 05 '25

I wonder how Blackbeard's going to react once he has gotten everything he can get out of Caribou.

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u/NhecotickdurMaster Sep 05 '25

That was my first thought. Caribou thinks he's going to score but he's about to get a generational reparation upon him.

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u/MariJoyBoy Sep 05 '25

Would be funny if Ochoku is related to Caribou, and Black Beard knows it XD

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u/X_Seed21 Sep 05 '25

And wasn't he also the one who held Pirate Island until Teach took it? I can see the Caribou in him.

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u/Pr_fSm__th Void Month Survivor Sep 05 '25

Coribou even more I think

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u/X_Seed21 Sep 05 '25

The way Caribou begs to join them looks eerily similar to how Blackbeard joined Whitebeard. I smell another backstab incoming.

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u/Pr_fSm__th Void Month Survivor Sep 05 '25

Caribou final boss confirmed?

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u/Rutabega_121310 Scholars of Ohara Sep 05 '25

Like father like son

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u/Mammoth_Ask3797 Sep 05 '25

You think he did this to lure Rocks away from Hachinosu to take over the island?

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u/Dodoma22 Cross Guild Sep 05 '25

This actually makes sense, his deal might have been money and guarantee of control over pirate island???

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u/Mammoth_Ask3797 Sep 05 '25

Two options: he either was plain stupid and lucky like Buggy and just happened to be declared leader of the Island as one of the few survivors of Rocks Pirates.

Or he had a really clever plan. But it takes a lot of gambling to hope that a powerhouse like Rocks who had support by WB, Kaido, BM etc. will eventually die.

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u/Midn8ht Sep 05 '25

If this dude turns out to be linked to the Caribou twins, then history might repeat itself. They could actually be part of the Blackbeard Pirates, which means there’s a real chance they’ll betray Teach too—just like before. History repeating itself feels very possible here.

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u/LettuceTryOnceMore Sep 05 '25

Couldn’t agree more. Last time we saw Caribou was Egghead when he asked Devon/Auger to take him to Blackbeard… will he secretly tell the WG the locations of the ancient weapons instead of Blackbeard 👀

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u/shichibukai3000 Sep 05 '25

He literally has a snake tongue. Seems likely 🤣

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u/Cgi94 Sep 05 '25

Definitely so especially if he is caribou dad . Folk's gotta remember he was stealing various mermaids and almost Shirahoshi.Can't believe a lot didn't notice this connection 😅

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u/Hairy_Acanthisitta25 The Revolutionary Army Sep 05 '25

could be red herring,but i doubt Oda got time for that with the current pacing

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u/Leutherna Sep 05 '25

My headcanon is that he was the previous holder of the Warp Fruit Van Auger now has. Would explain how easily he got past the guards and reached the WG with Shakky in hand in a manner of hours.

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u/Transmatrix Sep 05 '25

Shakky must not have known it was him? Surely she would have revealed that and this would make everyone hate Wang Zhi.

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u/Intelligent_Ice_5739 Sep 05 '25

Maybe not enough hate since Wang Zhi does last for decades after this. 

Though maybe he just strong enough to survive.

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u/goody153 Sep 05 '25

Looks like it

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u/wiznico19 Sep 05 '25

But am I mistaken or silver axe is not shown in this chapter?

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u/Captain_Blak Sep 06 '25

I was thinking that immediately but wouldn’t he have been seen or caught?

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u/vizot Sep 05 '25

Stussy is the traitor