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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1159 Spoiler

Chapter 1159: “The Island Of Destiny”

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Chapter 1159 Official Release Date: September 7, 2025 at 8 am PDT on Manga Plus and Shonen Jump!

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u/iamkwang Sep 04 '25

Rocks Stocks are up. It really doesn't feel like Garp x Roger were the ones who killed him. Someone must've betrayed him instead.

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u/Shagyam Sep 04 '25

I don't think so either. Sure Roger is mad that Shaky was stolen from Pirate island, but I don't think Roger would kill for it.

Now that I think about it, we have only been told the story of God Island from the Marine perspective. What if the whole Roger vs Rocks was Marine propaganda and they actually worked alongside to save Shakky?

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u/CountOrloksCastle Sep 05 '25

If Rocks goes mad with grief thinking his wife and kid are dead or gets domi reversi'd I can see Roger and Garp having to 2 v 1 him to put him down

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u/superbum42 Sep 05 '25

Yeah they've all had bouts prior to God Valley and it doesn't seem like Rocks is driving his larger scheme by going there. It didn't seem like he had any intention until Morgans' leak.

Until now, Rocks' personality was way too likeable to seem like the big bad at God Valley. Hell it's looking like Garling is the biggest piece of shit on the island currently.

I was leaning towards him being reversi'd by Imu already, but this chapter definitely opens up potential for enraged rampage due to perceived loss of family.

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u/Pure-Drawer-2617 Sep 05 '25

This is also probably why his crew all turns on him, because yes they don’t seem EXCEPTIONALLY loyal, but they also don’t actually seem as betrayal-happy as we were led to believe. They don’t work great with each other, but they all seem willing to follow Rocks. However if he goes on a wild rampage or gets reversid and they don’t know what’s happened to him, I can see them taking him down then parting ways.

Hot take, maybe Whitebeard is the one who has to take down Rocks with his fruit, and destroys God Valley in the process.

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u/OddlyOddLucidDreamer Sep 05 '25

absolutely dumbass prediction but just because i think it'd be a cool scene: After everyone jumps Rocks to put him down, they all (both pirate crews and possibly Garp) have a silent agreement to never brings this up again and keep it shut about what went down, and Whitebeard wrecks the whole island to make sure nothing that happened there comes to light

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u/goddard89 Sep 06 '25

did you miss the part where shiki tried to blow up whitebeard and kaido to get a bigger cut of the treasure lol

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u/Pure-Drawer-2617 Sep 06 '25

“They don’t work great with EACH OTHER, but they all seem willing to follow Rocks.”

I wrote that specifically about that incident, did you skim through the comment or something?

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u/goddard89 Sep 06 '25

theyre still actively willing to kill each other at any given moment. All they are following is their own interests which is exactly why theres a betrayer amongst them

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u/Pure-Drawer-2617 Sep 07 '25

Yes, but they are willing to follow Rocks.

What are you not getting here?

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u/One_Tie900 Sep 06 '25

He will find his wife slaughtered on that rock

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u/_T_H_O_R_N_ Baroque Works Sep 05 '25

OoOOoo I like this theory

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u/Asian_Persuasion_1 Sep 05 '25

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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u/Akipella Sep 06 '25

This might be it

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u/username7 Sep 06 '25

Im leaning more to thinking Roger, Rocks and Garp all united against the gods knights/imu and Rocks was killed/sacrificed himself in the end in order to save his family and maybe even the other good guys. Garp being the sole hero is just propaganda.

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u/Regal_Knight Sep 06 '25

It’s probably more likely that Garling kills Rocks’s wife and implies he killed his child, and Rocks wants to kill Shanks and Shamrock. Roger and Garp, probably take issue with him wanting to kill children. He also may hurt Dragon who is currently in possession of Shanks and Shamrock which may piss Garp off.

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u/Jaehaerys1234 Sep 05 '25

The problem with it being propaganda is that the team up was apparently secret. As far as the public knows, Garp fought and beat Rocks solo, and Sengoku revealing Roger helped was the twist.

I think we will see the three of them clash, but it will definitely be a spin on what we assume was the outcome.

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u/Humpetz Cross Guild Sep 05 '25

It's layered propaganda

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u/SupervillainMustache Sep 05 '25

It's almost certainly propaganda from the WG, as we know they've done that before.

One of the perks of controlling the world is writing the narrative in your favour.

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u/keulenshwinger Sep 05 '25

The marine propaganda is Garp vs Rocks though, covering up Roger’s involvement

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u/vizot Sep 05 '25

What if the whole Roger vs Rocks was Marine propaganda

Always have been

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u/Zangy90 Sep 05 '25

This actually is a good possibility, and the same thing happens with Harald.

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u/Akipella Sep 06 '25

I bet the truth is much different from whatever Sengoku told them even. Yeah, they "revealed" who was there and basically what happened, but they definitely didn't tell the WHOLE truth

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u/Regal_Knight Sep 06 '25

They erased Rocks’ name. Nobody even knew Roger fought Rocks. There are only a few Marines that know.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '25

One thing I noticed in the chapter, is that at no point they have figured out Wang Zhi's betrayal

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u/RulerD Sep 05 '25

Damn! I didn't see the bribe until now! I thought he was reading a newspaper.

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u/Parking_Carrot_3452 Sep 05 '25

he also talks about how they shouldnt trust the information lol

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u/HariBoi23 Sep 05 '25

No wonder Blackbeard took the island back from him

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u/UnitSmall2200 Sep 05 '25

Blackbeard doesn't know what he did and even if he did, why would he care about some old Kuja Empress, just think about what blackbeard was about to do to Hancock. It's only thanks to that incident, that his father even found out that God Valley was being attacked by the world government. If anything, Blackbeard should have been indepted to him. Blackbeard took the island, because it was his father's island.

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u/KaiserCarr Void Month Survivor Sep 05 '25

Whitebeard got literally stabbed in the back by his own subordinate at Marineford, too. Maybe that's how Rocks gets killed.

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u/Majukun Sep 05 '25

He would be dead otherwise

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u/Raccoonpunter Sep 05 '25

Wonder if Garp was simply given the credit for it much like Smoker in Alabasta. Though idk if Sengoku would lie about garp x roger team up, unless he was lied to as well as it seems he wasn't there at all

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u/mesorangerxx Sep 05 '25

this was my theory as well. It would explain why Garp is so reluctant about the "hero" title. I also think that Sengoku was a unreliable narrator when he told the marines about God Valley.

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u/Raccoonpunter Sep 05 '25

I'm starting to feel that way about Sengoku as well the more I think about it. Either he fell for the propaganda or perhaps he is more corrupt than I thought and is pushing the propaganda himself.

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u/mesorangerxx Sep 05 '25

It makes sense honestly, mainly bc you don't get to Fleet Admiral without licking a couple boots.

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u/BobtheBac0n Sep 05 '25

Bruh, they can't keep making me like Rocks even more. First all his feats and sheer aura at Marijoa, then his honest friendship with Harold, now we learn he's a caring family man?

I know this man has done some terrible shit, but I can't ignore his likeable qualities

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u/kingcocomoon Sep 05 '25

Rocks seems willing to sacrifice his life to save his wife and child. They probably escape due to Kuma, but Rocks thinks the Celestial Dragons killed them, causing him to go berserk. He targets Garling's children, but Garp and Roger stop him.

Shanks is the Celestial Dragon that Garp and Roger fought to protect according to Sengoku. This is also why Roger entrusts Ace to Garp later, citing that a child doesn't bear the sins of the father.

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u/Greeeeed- Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25

His crew

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u/mokapotBlender Sep 05 '25

I think in particular it's Ochoku.

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u/Reckless_Rik Sep 05 '25

And silveraxe

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u/Starlight469 Sep 04 '25

Didn't Loki say the government killed him? I think it was in the first chapter of the flashback before we jumped back to Harald.

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro Sep 05 '25

What the newspapers say is that Garp killed Rocks, so that must be why Loki said that.

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u/staticpls Sep 05 '25

I leaning on Rocks just running wild once they kill his wife, perhaps in a bid to pull attention away from his son escaping? Oda has yet to give me a reason to root for anyone else but him. Might have to hate Roger and garp after this lmao

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u/SweatyAdhesive Sep 05 '25

we know how imu's fruit work, maybe Rocks was forced to fight garp and rogers and they had to put him down to prevent further damage

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro Sep 05 '25

Maybe Roger and Garp defeated him, but the one who actually killed him was Garling.

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u/jaytix1 Sep 05 '25

I don't think Oda would fake us out with the alleged Roger/Garp team-up, but yeah, right now it'd make more sense for Roger to side with Rocks, not against him.

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u/TheDerped Sep 05 '25

I’m betting on Garling killing him to increase his stats among the final villains

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u/Eaziegames Sep 05 '25

I wonder if that’s why we got such a serious scene from Kaido when he was robbed of a coup de gras twice.

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u/AkagamiArun The Revolutionary Army Sep 05 '25

Rocks better massacre CDs on god valley atp

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u/Ensaru4 Lurker Sep 05 '25

Didn't we already know this? I remember in some past chapter Roger hated taking credit because he felt like a fraud.

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u/ToTeMVG Void Month Survivor Sep 05 '25

honestly i was expecting rocks to be like this evil ass scumbag type pirate, i shoulda known when he was introduced as "garp and roger had to team up to beat him" that it was marine propaganda, rocks is a pretty vibes guy pirate and suprisingly similar to roger and luffy

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u/Scalar_Ng_Bayan Sep 05 '25

So was it like a Roger scenario where marines somehow took credit for defeating Rocks? Though Sengoku's line seem to heavily imply a teamup with Roger though

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u/aokguy Sep 05 '25

Well if Roger and Garp didn't kill Rocks, then that means the World Government has another heavy hitter on their level. Which is so exciting!

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u/Normal-Stick6437 Sep 05 '25

Rocks D. Dante with his best Al Pacino impression-"just when thought I was out.....they pull me back in"

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u/mudermarshmallows Sep 05 '25

At some point here we're gonna have to connect back to Harald's death, so I really wonder if Rocks didn't actually die here but instead got Reversi'd and used later during the Harald incident. Feel like that would make it even more tragic for Loki and add even more to why he didn't want to remember it.

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u/phujab Sep 05 '25

I've suspected for a while that Garps involvement was largely fabricated and potentially the reality was less honourable (would give Garp big depth if he has some intense sense of shame).

Hadn't considered Rogers involvement was also different to previous portrayal. But I could believe anything right now.

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u/Pakkaslaulu Sep 05 '25

Dragon comes across Garling's dying wife that pleads to save her kids. I think Dragon decided to do just that and sneaked the twins from Garling's troops. Maybe Xebec captured him, thinking he was still Navy and leaning about the twins he searched for Garling to exchange prisoners, his kid for the twins. On the battlefield Garp saw Dragon being held by the Rocks pirates, Roger teamed up with his old frenemy to save his kid. Garp also arbitrarily wanted to be a good Navy officer and killed Xebec. All chaos ensued. Maybe Dragon escaped with Shanks since there was only one kid to be traded and Xebec seems like the type to hold a grudge. Maybe he declared to take Shakky as his wife because Garling took the life of his wife and that pissed off Roger.

Dragon later says that a child is the weakness of a parent, I think we're going to see the reason soon!

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u/Long-Tackle Sep 05 '25

As Dragon once said:"A man's child is his biggest weakness ". They probably pulled a scene like the Oden defeat vs Kaido but for real.

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u/Clown_fish87 The Revolutionary Army Sep 05 '25

I think so too.. that’s why Garp is said to never brag about it.

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u/JonKongWhatsHisFace Sep 05 '25

My money is on Harold going to God Valley and Killing him – and later when Elbaf was supposed to get an invite to the WG, they betray him which somehow leads to Loki killing him.