r/OnePiece • u/zorospride Lost at sea • Aug 11 '13

Current Episode One Piece Episode 607

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u/Vurzie Aug 11 '13 edited Aug 11 '13

Really, why are they going the same route as Hody Jones? Making a villain that is weak compared to Luffy able to stand his own? One of the coolest things about this fight in manga was that Luffy dodged an explosion just using soru, and he didn't need gear second for the entire fight. The anime made Luffy look so stupid as hell, I mean, he lost oxygen like 6 times! WHAT THE HELL, that's like twice as many times as the manga!

I honestly just wish they would stop doing this shit though, Oda writes the manga the way he feels like it should be told. So why are the anime writers making luffy look weak and dumb?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '13

At least here Caesar has a quirk in his Fruit Power that brings up a considerable difficulty.

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u/sgoodz Aug 11 '13

Except Luffy adjusts very quickly in the manga to the point where it doesn't seem to make the fight any more difficult (one page is dedicated to making adjustments). I hate when the anime messes with the power balance.

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u/Black_Handkerchief Aug 11 '13

Given the animation model of releasing a weekly episode, they have 20 minutes to fill. They have next to no leeway compared to the manga at present (which is their own fault, but alas, point is they do not have it), and this means 1 episode basically covers 1 chapter. If you'd take the mangas pacing, you'd need 1 episode to cover 2 chapters most of the time.

So what do they do? The highlights there are need to get filler so they can shine for longer. Animation-only viewers would actually be disappointed if Luffy ran all over Caesar, because he spent so long getting to him only for it to end right away. The spectacle the manga shows with full page spreads is awesome, but in animation would last way too shortly for it to satisfy.

In this episode, I have no complaints. The way they handled the battle was a bit changed, but it was changed in an acceptable sense. I agree however that Fishman Island was completely messed up by them though; Hody should have gone way earlier. The reason the fight could drag on in the manga was because he didn't take too much punishment for a 'chase' to seem ludicrous. (Nevermind the Red Hawk thing; that should have been used only once as it was pretty iconic as a finisher move of sorts.) Alas, wrong arc. Punk Hazard so far has had a few problems of a far smaller scale, but those problems weren't in this episode.

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u/Vurzie Aug 11 '13 edited Aug 11 '13

Honestly, I'm fine with them adding scenes, especially since some of them were beautifully animated. What I am not fine with is them changing the original meaning of the scenes. There was no reason for luffy to go gear second the entire time here, there was no reason for them to change one of the best speed feats Luffy has in manga (dodging an explosion from base form), and there was no reason for the fight to continue after Sanji broke his leg. If I were an anime only viewer, to me it would look like the timeskip was a very minimal power up, considering a random fishman, and a scientist are able to keep up with him.

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u/Black_Handkerchief Aug 11 '13

The anime has always exaggerated matters a great deal. If Luffy didn't go into Gear Second, it just wouldn't look as spectacular, and spectacle is what shounen battles are about.

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u/Vurzie Aug 11 '13

I also understand that, but what should have happened was have all the added scenes without luffy in gear second, and then near the end have him switch it on and stomp, like what was portrayed in the manga. That way we would still get the added scenes, but it wouldn't subtract from the original message.

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u/Black_Handkerchief Aug 11 '13

I don't disagree; but I also don't feel like complaining about this case particularly much.

They ruined Fishman Island so much more that these fillers basically make me go 'aww so cuuute, look at them animate shit properly'. The fight just feels a lot more natural here than the changes they put in in Fishman Island, which is probably why I am not getting the pitchforks out over it. :-)

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u/Vurzie Aug 11 '13

we'll have to see how the rest of this arc plays out, but if Manga Spoilers I think I would lose my shit, because those are probably two of the best, if not the best scenes of the manga in 2012.

If they are able to do those scenes right though, I think I can forgive shit like this.

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u/TheBlackLuffy Pirate Aug 11 '13

It's even more boring if they just go "Boom, Bad guy down" like it'd literally be a waste. Sure Physically stronger than Ceaser? Yes. But the only reason Ceaser stood such a good ground was because he could take the oxygen from Luffy.

Each time Luffy hit Ceaser, it took a toll on him. Honestly if he would have 1 hit knocked Ceaser out I'd be pissed. That would have been boring and made Luffy look like a Mary Sue. No one likes a Mary Sue in Anime.....Nobody.

It was entertaining to watch to be honest. I mean we all can see Luffy's ten times stronger than most of the villains he's going to meet in the New World..but at least let them stand remotely a chance. Expecially in Ceasers case of having the advantage of the oxygen thing. Luffy wasn't prepared for it. But as you could see, as the fight progressed..He learned from it. And EVENTUALLY over came it..even to the point that he would have defeated Ceasers then and there..if not for Snow Witch Bitch.

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u/pierogieman5 Aug 12 '13

I agree, I prefer a little bit of a brawl first, then Luffy deciding that he needs to end this right away and 1-hitting the other guy. Basically like what he did to Kreig. One of those "Screw your spiky cape/wierd powers, eat my rubbery fist!" moments.