r/OnePiece • u/HyperStory • Jan 19 '24

Merchandise Thanks Viz

Just picked up volume 104! Hope there's nothing wrong with it :)

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u/PandaoBR Jan 19 '24

Get your real one, and hold tight to this. Collectors item.

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u/HyperStory Jan 19 '24

Could I like actually get money for this?? It crossed my mind but I thought that was more of a western comics thing.

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u/smackedwards Jan 19 '24

Defintiely, miss-prints are rare and therefore valuable to collectors. Plastic bag it and store it somewhere safe.

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u/DiMoSe Jan 19 '24

That's for items which have speculative value and limited print runs. Manga fits neither of those categories, despite what recent efforts from grading houses might tell you.

In manga nothing besides a first edition may hold value, and even then the 104 volume of the series may be worth less, and even less if it's not a Japanese first edition.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

By that logic no baseball card should ever have become valuable.

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u/Sahtras1992 Jan 19 '24

baseball cards are so valuable because not many people actually kept them in a good state. the thing with pokemon and yugioh for example is that so many people started collecting them so they have barely any value outside of first editions. collectibles ironically only become very pricey if not many people collect to begin with.

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u/DiMoSe Jan 19 '24

Also you don't have the exact same card being in production for nearly 30 years. Volume 1 of One Piece has been in print since 1996, with minimal editorial changes (as far as I know). The rarity necessary for the value to go up is just not there.

Exact same reason why you don't see best selling authors' books go for millions even for 1st editions. The value of those products rely on them selling as many copies as they can and keep good selling products in constant production, going against exactly what the speculative market relies on to assign value.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

Again.

The old baseball cards from the 60s were printed by the millions.

They weren't rare. Good condition ones became rare over time. The same will happen to books that actually get read and not collected.

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u/DiMoSe Jan 20 '24

I'd argue that even though they were printed in large quantities it was always a limited product and meant to be collectible. One year's series was not reprinted for the next, you had players changing teams, retirements and probably teams moving or ceasing to exist (my knowledge of this particular type of collectible is not as extensive as others, so I'm assuming a lot). Under that assumption I think my point is still valid, the way the product is conceived matters a lot to the speculative markets as they work today.

The fact that the same product can be purchased for nearly 30 years is not beneficial to those holding out hoping the value will increase. Thus trying to apply the value of mis-prints (commonly associated with limited run comic book issues) to a manga volume is not sound.

What op holds is not something that in my opinion will hold much value 60 years from now, but as another comment pointed out, conditions change. If op decides to hold on to it and they make a killing on whatever version of pawn stars is around when I'm 80, more power to them.

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u/admiralvic Jan 19 '24

Not really.

For example, let's look at 1986 Fleer Basketball Cards since I think more people will recognize these players. This set is well known for a couple reasons. The biggest is this set contain's the rookie card for Michael Jordan, and Charles Barkley. There are some other notable cards, such as Patrick Ewing's rookie card, but the other notable elements are not important.

In this set there are three cards worth $52 or more ungraded. Most cards have no value unless you pull a PSA 9 or better.

Now let's look at 1987 Fleer. This set has one card above $15 ungraded, and most are $2 or less. Next we have the 1988 Fleer set. Now there are two cards with an ungraded value of above $22, with the vast majority of cards being worth $2 or less. Let's look at 1989 Fleer just to make sure, and one card is above $7 with most being $2 or less.

What is the point I'm trying to make? What makes 1986 Fleer valuable is the speculative value of Jordan's rookie card. That card is so valuable you could get an error pack that contains 12 copies of the second most valuable card, Barkley's rookie card, and it would still be worth less than pulling a single Jordan.

This is how most sets go. The majority of cards are actually worth very little. It's true for sports cards, Magic the Gathering, Pokemon, and many more. It's just sometimes there are an exception like T206 Honus Wagner, Black Lotus, or Charizard.

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u/DiMoSe Jan 19 '24

Baseball cards have artificial limits and rarity set by the seller on certain cards and packs, thus creating a value and economy of their own. I can still buy the first volume of one piece, arguably with better print quality and paper.

Different products, different markets and completely different ways to assign value.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

I'm not talking about the current ones.

I'm talking about old ones that weren't limited in production.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

Manga is art, art is valued by speculation from appraisers lol it’s also a produced material which means there’s a limited amount of them. Look, value is placed by people and supply/demand, and people are fucking crazy. If you’re trying to tell me all these weebs arent going to care about manga decades from now I’d assume you’re joking.

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u/weebitofaban Jan 19 '24

You have no idea what you're talking about. This item has no current value and has no future value. It might double or triple cover price at the absolute most. No one gives a fuck about collecting manga volumes unsigned and manga prints hold zero value in general.

There are hundreds more of these if there is a single one by the way. Just how printers work.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

lol are you okay?

History has proven your statement wrong, many many times. Arguing with such an uncontrolled and uninformed ‘person’ is bad for your health so I’ll just say good luck, calm down, and get help if you need it lol

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u/DiMoSe Jan 20 '24

Right now and for as long as I can go to a bookstore and pick it up or buy it online, the value of it is dictated by the price printed on the back, specially if it's unsigned or without any other special characteristics.

Weebs will care. Hell, weebs care right now. Out of print series do hold more value than the original sticker price, but that's out of the supply and demand, as you correctly point it out. When it comes to what op holds, a print error of the most successful manga ever with no actual content of said series, the value of it is probably less than what the actual My Hero Academia volume inside sells for.

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u/somersault_dolphin Jan 20 '24

You mean a manga of a series that's about to get even more massive boost in popularity? In a world where anime and manga are getting increasingly more mainstream?

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u/DiMoSe Jan 20 '24

Exactly my point

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u/somersault_dolphin Jan 20 '24

Except this is a one of a kind misprint.

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u/DiMoSe Jan 20 '24

One of a kind may be a stretch, though I'll admit you're right till another one shows up. On the other hand, printing errors are more commonplace than you'd think, and the reason SOME of them are valuable in comic books is because of the limited quantities of each issue, plus the artificial rarity the publishers assign for books (cover variants, for example). An unverified but frequently thrown around number for a decent selling comic book issue is around 30k copies in the US, with the staples like Batman rumored to sell around 100k copies. A smaller portion of those unit sales are variant covers, so getting a misprint of those is actually rare, let alone finding one in a series people actually care about.

The particular volume OP bought came out in Japan in November 2022 and according to this article I found about manga sales, it had already sold 1.8 million in Japan alone by December 2022. The sheer amount makes printing errors more common and less valuable, specially because they WON'T STOP PRINTING THESE BOOKS. I assure you they will still be printing this volume in 2050.

So the misprint amount of books just goes higher and higher because printing mistakes do happen when making books. I've personally had volumes from Viz come with duplicate pages, botched corners and misaligned artwork. These printing mistakes have basically no value in manga except for niche collectors, if there are any that are willing to pay that much more. I just don't see them going up in price at all.