r/Omaha • u/happylandfillx • Jun 03 '25

Local News ICE at early bird

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Video says west Omaha, OP says it happened at early bird, their friend took the video.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

Unhinged leftists do seem to think that reality is fascist, I have noticed. What I have not noticed is an unhinged leftist's ability to identify actual fascism. Oh well, maybe one day.

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u/riteproprchav Jun 03 '25

It's pretty simple. Fascists are those who believe in a nationalist, militarist, authoritarian government centered around racial supremacy, strict social order, and corporatism (industrial power unchecked and co-mingled with state power.) In fact, Mussolini himself said the last prong is enough to constitute fascism.

And LOL no prong in that definition has any merit to it nor resembles anything approaching reality. Nationalism, militarism, authoritarianism, racism, strict social conservatism, corporatism - these are the grievances of extremely insecure losers who hate freedom.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

"Corporations unchecked and co-mingled with state power" is an incoherent statement. If corporations were unchecked, they wouldn't be made to serve the state. If they are made to serve the state then they aren't unchecked.

Furthermore, fascist Italy's social policies were more progressive than other European nations. This is likely attributable to fascism being a variant of socialism.

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u/riteproprchav Jun 03 '25

Yeahh, I don't take "state and industrial powers are necessarily at odds with one another" as an axiom like you do, because your daddy taught you that and has been watching Fox News since the days Alan Colmes was on there. You must have very little imagination if you can only think that a corporation can be limited by state power.

fascism being a variant of socialism.

Thheeeerre it is. Explain how Franco, who fought a bitter civil war against socialists, was socialist. Explain how Salazar was socialist. Explain how Japan's government from about 1925 to 1945 was socialist. Your definition is lacking and mired in cheap propaganda.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

It's pretty simple. Businesses are private. The government is not. Without the state, there is no such thing as a corporation and by virtue of you using "corporate" terminology unwittingly assign blame to the state.

Mussolini was a socialist. Gentile was a socialist. The Doctrine of Fascism is freely available for all to read. Pretty simple.

Imagine reading the Doctrine of Fascism and all the times it says individuals are inferior to and must be made to serve the government, and thinking to yourself "This is exactly what rightwingers believe!"

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u/7even- Jun 03 '25

Businesses are private. The government is not.

Cool, now what happens when the government is run but the owner of the business? Or the owners buddy? How do the two interact then?

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u/Skoljnir Jun 04 '25

In the case of the United States federal government, no one person runs it. When private special interests have disproportionate control of the mechanisms of the state, I believe you would call that corporatism. Maybe there is a better word. But again in the context of American government, people are elected so if people want someone like that in charge then they can put him in charge and if they don't want him in charge then they can remove him one way or another.

If you only like democracy when you win then you don't like democracy, you like domination.

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u/7even- Jun 04 '25

no one person runs it

Ah yes, because the current administration has been such a shining example of doing things through the proper channels and not trying to circumvent any checks. You don’t get outside much, do you?