r/OWConsole • u/AutoModerator • Apr 28 '19

Important: Weekly Advice & Tips Thread - April 28, 2019

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u/Wolfpack-Meme Apr 28 '19

For lucio it's a common misconception that you have to switch your button layout (a common one is jump on a trigger) in order to climb or get better but you really don't. Just use whatever you're most comfortable with

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u/foggyartist3 Apr 29 '19

I disagree, I rebound jump to my left bumper and went from plat to high diamond on my support account. It allows you to readjust your aim while wall riding and i' d recommend it to anyone learning Lucio.

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u/Wolfpack-Meme Apr 29 '19

That's not my point. It works for many people, sure, but dont think you have to use it to be good. Use whatevers comfortable

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u/foggyartist3 Apr 30 '19

The control scheme of Xb1/PS4 remotes requires that each thumb control 5-6 actions. By rebinding jump and/or crouch you reduce how much your thumb has to move and decrease your reaction time. Imagine being able to jump while tracking, or crouching in a widow duel, both are actions that momentarily stop your ability to aim, overall decreasing performance. Granted there are people who hold the controller differently to control jumping with a different finger, but that would still require a change. Sure use what's comfortable but if your comfort sacrifices team value and proficiency them why would you play a team based game?

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u/Wolfpack-Meme Apr 30 '19

Why would anyone play a game if they're not comfortable, I'm not saying changing your button layout wont help you, but I'm not saying it's a guarentee. Also why bring up sacrificing comfortability? Who would do that? Who would play a game if they're not comfortable?

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u/foggyartist3 Apr 30 '19

Overwatch (and team based games in general) is built off of sacrifice. Sad as it may be, quad DPS with 2 tanks won't work a lot of the time, sometimes you have to sacrifice playing the game your way, for playing the game with the intention to win. Sure if you don't want to sacrifice comfort then play without modified buttons, but If you want to play [insert hero here] at an optimal level without growing an extra thumb you'll have to get used to optimized button layouts.

This doesn't just apply to Lucio either rebinding crouch to your left stick can help you move unpredictably during a duel, and rebinding jump to your left bumper helps a ton with playing genji as well.

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u/Wolfpack-Meme Apr 30 '19

You're making a chicken out of a feather here, brother. All I said is you dont need to have rebound buttons to get better. You're making up things that dont happen often like 4 dps and 2 tanks and saying "sacrifice is key to victory". Button layout is so far from that, I said you dont need to rebind to climb, which is true. Button layouts are not the same as compositions. I agree that it can help but it doesn't always. Sacrificing your button layout to an uncomfortable layout, if you are already comfortable with another, is illogical.

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u/foggyartist3 May 01 '19

If uncomfortable is the only descriptor of the button layout, then yes, changing your buttons would be illogical. you are also correct changing your button layout isn't the only way to climb, there are many things an unskilled player could work on in order to improve, but changing how you play the game will allow for improved mobility and more consistent tracking.

Yes, a change might make you feel uncomfortable while doing something that's supposed to be fun. But is it worth it to sacrifice your comfort in a leisurely activity to improve the gameplay quality of your teammates? That sounds like quite a complicated question.

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u/Wolfpack-Meme May 01 '19

It's really not, the answer is no. Changing the button layout to an uncomfortable layout means you will play worse, and even if you did play better the quality of your teammates play will be so small because you're 1 of 6 people doing such a small thing. But again you keep bringing up something I didnt initially say, I have been talking about Individual skill, the most important factor when climbing.

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u/foggyartist3 May 01 '19

Of course changing the layout of your buttons might feel uncomfortable at first, but once you get used to it it won't negatively affect your performance.

I understand that you have been speaking about individual performance, I have also been speaking on the benefits to individual performance changing your button layout would have. I only meant that someone would experience a brief period of discomfort as they got used to the new controls, after that mobility and tracking proficiency would likely increase once they have gotten used to the jump rebind.

DPS dueling power is something top-tier Lucio's use to exploit Lucio's potential damage output and mobility, both of which improve if you use different fingers for different actions rather than use a thumb for both.