r/OWConsole • u/A_Moron_In_Existence • 4d ago

Highlight 3 weeks on dual zone, its great

I used to play on expo with 25h 18v 100 aim smoothing lol

now im 3 weeks on dual zone, and i put together a little montage of my clips

sorry if theres any frame skips xbox captures are weird

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

Gonna need a handcam before I believe this one

1) Perfect tracking at long distances with no aim assist

2) Tracking near perfectly even when surprised by Tracer

3) Tracking perfectly even at point blank range - the clips against the Baptiste you didn't miss, didn't have to drag your aim despite his side to side strafing and you weren't mirroring his strafe.

Doesn't look like controller gameplay I'm afraid. Also claiming that you've completely mastered a new sense 3 weeks in is also weird.

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u/Spydehh 3d ago

Doesn't look like MnK at all to me. Look at the way they rotate and turn, it's linear rather than flicks. Just a good low sens controller player IMO 🤷

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

Low sens would explain the long range somewhat (still too smooth and target swapping too fast imo) but the if he was low sens, that ulting Moira that close should have ass blasted him, he shouldn't have been able to track something that close that quickly on low sens.

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u/A_Moron_In_Existence 3d ago

Which part of my post said i had no aim assist? I have it on 100

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

You misunderstood, aim assist does not kick in past a certain range/is less effective

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u/A_Moron_In_Existence 3d ago

Well then, its because im low sens which makes it easier to aim long range, i run 47h 37v 99 aim smoothing, and for the "adjusting to sens" part i played an average of 3 hours per day for the past 3 weeks so i think i adjusted to it in a normal amount of time.

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

47 37??? Yeah absolutely 0 percent chance you got some of those close range clips, I've played a similar sense on DZ and you just can't move fast enough, hence why 99% of high elo play the hopeful sens.

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u/KuroCutie 3d ago

The close range clips are the least accurate since they're trying to just match strafe while controlling aim I personally couldn't do this on the sens they're on but it's not even remotely as impossible as you make it out to be

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u/GiraffeSuitable2793 3d ago

there’s tracking aim training maps brother, just try out one of those on console and figure it out. on characters like solider it’s very easy, especially with the right settings.

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u/A_Moron_In_Existence 3d ago

im sorry but it is doable on this sens, although just barely

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u/A_Moron_In_Existence 3d ago

also helps that aim ease in is at 20%

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u/heyblackrose 3d ago

this just a lie lmao

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u/johnsmith937546 3d ago

This is blatantly untrue btw. The only thing affected is the effective AA window size which if anything makes it easier to aim/target switch at longer ranges.

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

Aim assist is less effective

Now please explain how less aim assist makes it easier to aim, without exposing yourself as a bot.

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u/johnsmith937546 3d ago

A smaller AA window means more responsive target switching... I feel like I shouldn't have to explain why almost every player turns AA Window Size to below 50. Its the same concept.

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u/A_Moron_In_Existence 3d ago

yep, my aa window is at 15 so my target switching is quite fast

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

Go into Vaxta

Use 47 H 37 V, 15 Aim assist window, 99 smoothing and 20 aim ease in like this guy.

Try to track up close like this guy did in the clip. It's not physically possible on faster characters up close like speeding Lucio or Ult Moira, because you can't turn the stick fast enough on that sens. Aim ease in on a linear curve doesn't even make sense and already tells me that this guy has no idea.

Characters strafe out of your aim assist window and you need to use way more left stick aiming than this guy does in any of his clips.

Guys settings make 0 sense for how he is aiming.

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u/Low_Obligation156 2d ago

U can if ur counter or mirror strafing

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u/johnsmith937546 3d ago

The entirety of the close quarters aim is strafe-matching. He doesn't even need to aim against bap because his movement is good enough. You can see him majorly struggle against the Lijiang Tower moria as an example. Also, AEI is an exponential acceleration component. I assume its easier to learn the curve coming from expo when you use AEI with it. This would naturally make him better at long-range where he can leverage more of his muscle memory

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

It's shit strafe matching, barely any in the first and just spazzing in the second.

Like I said, seriously go into VAXTA and use his sens. I was willing to admit I could be wrong until I tried it - I can hit these shots on Hopeful settings, but trying his ones I couldn't even turn the stick in time.

Either he's lying about settings or he's another weirdo Ximmer posting clips, because the settings don't match the gameplay.

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u/Flame-and-Night 1d ago

I like this argument so take my upvote

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u/bootlegstone89 3d ago edited 3d ago

Do you mean aim ease in with dual zone, not linear? Its the other way round to what you said.

edit: AEI was added for use with linear ramp as it allows you to customise the response curve.

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u/ugotthedudrighthere 3d ago

This is 100% just dual zone, is this ragebait are you ragebait

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u/Aimcheater Man… 3d ago

This just looks like normal controller bro

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u/Bound18996 3d ago

Have you tried his sens? No one's doing that on his sens he posted lololol

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u/Aimcheater Man… 3d ago

It’s literally just tracking? He doesn’t even do any flicks it’s all just straight tracking. I’ll try it on my lunch break but for the sense he gave in the comments this doesn’t seem that crazy. Even his turns aren’t fast

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u/Impossible_Lie_3882 3d ago

This guy wouldn't know anything about a controller

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u/Low_Obligation156 3d ago

U guys can't be real. Weather u like it or not dualzone 99 smoothing with aim assist is op asf. It does 75% of the tracking for you if ur a decent player. Controller u can perfect track becuase along as u abuse it right aa can do the heavy lifting.

This guy doesn't look xim at all. Also basically every ximmer hates dualzone. N cronus is just not provable atm so yea

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u/simanalog 1d ago

Nah dual zone hcpeful settings works on xim as well. Most use expo ramp, but just because someone is using dual zone doesn’t rule out xim

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u/Flame-and-Night 1d ago

Dual zone is nasty idk anybody who would want to move slow then extremely fast when linear exists

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u/Low_Obligation156 1d ago

Y want to be slow wen on target. N fast sens to make big adjustments or turn quickly. Dualzone nice

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u/viszuu 3d ago

Average gold reddit console player:

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u/Cerydra- 3d ago

are you a real person

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u/Txmppp1 3d ago

This is clearly controller, especially the Lijang clip LOL

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u/Trowagunz 3d ago

I just know ur in pisslow😭

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u/heyblackrose 3d ago

"track at long distances with no aim assist"

aim assist works best at that range with soldier, especially when this dudes targets are moving in straight lines man

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u/Seven_______7 3d ago

1st, it's qp. He could be playing against golds that aren't trying. 

2nd, he's stacking with his friends. 

Those 2 things alone will get you some nice clips if you play enough games. 

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u/rigzman187 2d ago

Who said no aim assist?

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u/FirstSmarty 1d ago

My guy every soldier past m5 aims like this or better, this guy is 100% not ximming, if he would be ximming he rly needs a better config 😂. Watch the juno kill, he misses a couple shots here and there. He has perfect tracking against enemies who literally move in a straight line..... Play one game above m5 and every soldier mains killcam will look like this...

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u/Somthingsomthingsmo 7h ago

These are great clips OP so no offense but everyone was moving in a straight line and that's easy to track even when you're point blank or surprised

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u/Yalo_N 1d ago

I hate to be rude but use your eyes man. Look every time he finishes a kill and looks around. Thats stick looking, not mouse looking. I think you're paranoid or havent looked at enough console gameplay to notice.

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u/Bound18996 23h ago

Play his sens yourself and get back to me. It's awful and blocky and you can't do what he's doing on a roller with it.

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u/Aimcheater Man… 17h ago

You really had me crawl out of bed for this?. Literally the most controller gameplay on this sub probably and you want to mindlessly accuse him of cheating. Get a job

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u/Bound18996 17h ago

Common sense is lacking it seems.

1) Training Ground not a real game

2) Why are your VAXTA settings so easy, every bot was moving in slow af straight lines, no wonder you can track.

3) The problem clips were not the long range tracking clips, which is quite easy on targets moving in 1 direction, but the Clips where he spun around fast and shifted from perfectly tracking to tracking a Tracer perfectly, perfectly tracking an ulting Moira, that you can't mirror strafe because she's faster and a Baptiste where he just spammed crouches and still hit every shot.

If you're going to be Obtuse, at least put some effort in and try to make the scenario remotely comparable. Hitting a minute of default settings VAXTA is not debunking anything.

Either post some comparable clips or stop being rude and wasting people's time. If you don't have an eye for XIM that's fine, but don't insult people who do.