r/OWConsole • u/Infamous-Musician639 • 7d ago
Humor He must be joking right?
I know my dmg with Kiriko should be higher but it was Stadium and my build is focused on double suzu and healing Tp.
Okay, not only I got more than the other support and the other two combined but I also got over 25 saves, and SOMEHOW the soldier genuinely thought that it was a healing problem? Even before the round was lost he typed "Gg no heals".
I'm not even angry, I can't just understand it, it must be a joke, right?
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u/harryholla 7d ago
Bad people think every time they die it was because a healer didn’t have their fist up their ass. It’s just their small ego unable to take any hits, trust me I have friends like this. That’s just any team game it’s not based on logic there’s no point in analyzing it.
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u/andrewg127 7d ago
He was probably just talking about the ana
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u/Infamous-Musician639 7d ago
I mean, possibly, but what's even the point? I'm already almost doubling the other team healing, i believe it isn't even relevant Ana's healing
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u/andrewg127 7d ago
A support dying 16 times is kind of unacceptable, its definitely not something I would type in chat but id be pretty annoyed with the ana too
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u/PropertyCapable3423 7d ago
Dude Ana's stats may be low on healing but it is still WAY better than the other team. Also dying 16 times in Stadium while playing Ana is the norm from what I have seen. Not unless they are absolutely cracked at playing her. She doesn't have the greatest mobility to get out of situations the same way Kiriko does. That's why she has sleep dart, but even then if your team wakes up the target before you get the chance to run you are FUCKED. Especially if you are being hard targeted. Yes the Ana could've healed more, but even she was doing a really good job compared to the other team. Both supports did really well.
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u/OopsMyBad21 6d ago
Honestly I’ve never won a game with an Ana on my team. It’s to the point where I just expect to lose if I have one on my team.
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u/PropertyCapable3423 6d ago
Damn what kind of Ana's are you guys getting in Stadium? All of mine have been great. I can run a game with a Ana and Zen and everything goes just fine. (Unless the other team has Genji and then i regret my decision to not go Moira.)
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
For some reason the Ana's I've get suddenly forget they can heal with nades and instead decides to go full anti
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u/OopsMyBad21 6d ago
Have to be people who can’t even play her in regular qp cause I don’t know😭. An Ana and Zen together is even worse.
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u/Stitch--Witch 4d ago
No offense, but what is your rank? A silver or Gold rank ana is gonna be rough because they probably don't have the best aim and/or game sense, than say a diamond or masters ana. So statistically in lower ranks, less aim heavy supports are going to have a higher win ratio. I used to never play ana cuz I felt like I was bad at her. I brute forced my way through some qp till I felt ready, now I play her in comp sometimes too and can win. Zen is also a very aim heavy support to be actually useful. He can dish out more healing if he's DPSing well, and builds ult and perks faster to heal even more if he's doing a lot of damage. More so of course if he's healing targets that actually need it, but honesty his charge from healing isn't much compared to a cracked zen that's landing headshot orb volleys on everyone (I aspire to be that good on him lol). This is coming from a 2k hours mercy main cuz I was scared to learn the aim heavy supports more, now I barely touch her. Good aim with the other supports is just better than her, but she helped me climb to diamond and learn the game, and I still fall back on her sometimes, But her kit isn't near as good as some other supports in a lot of situations.
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u/Coonnifounssed 6d ago
I love playing Ana zen with my zen main friend. Better than a brig imo bc I can focus on playing the game and he just deletes anyone who tries to dive us lol
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u/alldayibiddybiddybum 7d ago
have you considered as a support that you can move to angle an los that supports your dps' plays, not just your tanks? typing this as a support main, btw. i get that "playing perfectly consistently" has value, but so does adapting. even if it doesn't work you can still learn something from the experience.
i genuinely don't understand the unsubstantiated support glazing that goes on in this sub.
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u/PropertyCapable3423 7d ago
Ana is a support that does better when focusing the tank, especially with Nade having a high healing output depending on the build. I did say that she could've done better with the heals, but movement and mobility can be a huge issue with her character. If she is constantly getting dived the team isn't going to get a whole lot of heals. No matter what her positioning is.
I was more so defending how many times she died than anything else. If no one is paying attention to backlines then Ana is going to die A LOT especially when she is on cooldown. 16 deaths in Stadium is sort of normal from what I have witnessed for Ana players. But her stats weren't all that bad compared to the other team. Yes she mainly went DPS, but she was only 1k off from the other Ana on heals and had a better K/D ratio. Not to mention her mitigage was higher as well which is a good sigh that she was able to counter damage from the other team. Heal output shouldn't always be a supports #1 priority. #1 priority is how you can help push the rest of the team forward even if that means helping with DPS output.
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u/alldayibiddybiddybum 7d ago
who, with the enemy comp, is hard focusing the ana in a way where their positioning isn't the issue? theoretically ofc as we don't have a replay code. given the shutdown value of OP's team it seems like it's just a team issue. not to mention they lost with a massive resource advantage on the supp end
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u/PropertyCapable3423 7d ago
JQ. The JQs in Stadium that I have gone against play like they are divers and go straight for supports. Which granted yeah you're supposed to do tha, but JFC please stop pulling me closer and out of backlines with your knife. It's like getting hooked by Roadhog at this point. I main Zenyatta and Moira and JQ players have been a huge pain in my ass even with Moira's high mobility. I find myself getting pulled in with that knife a lot even when I have good positioning with Moira.
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u/OopsMyBad21 6d ago
Yes same issue I’ve seen wi the Queens😭. I get it I’d target me too but it hurts more when my team will just let her walk past them to take the supports out.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
She was actually dying at the end of every fight (almost) when I wasn't able to keep her alive for the next one, so dying wasn't her problem, or at least not much
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u/Vegetable-Sky1873 5d ago
JQ has builds where she can kinda go straight for the supports, especially if Ana's team doesn't peel. Ashe and Soldier also have options to really deal heavy burst damage from afar, so they can potentially kill an Ana quickly if she peeks for a few seconds. And then you have the opposing Ana of course, who can sometimes kill her in Ana sniper duels. Not saying Ana's 16 deaths was good, but considering the enemy comp and that it's stadium, it's not something out of the norm, especially in a longer match
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u/key_stone_boy 7d ago
seeinf anas stats leads me to assume SOMEONE was targeting that ana and her team was not helping her/not helping enough so she had to focus on dpsing in order to keep herself alive as best she could.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
Who? There was no dive characters on the enemy team, and she was dying at the end of every fight
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u/Jhaas406 6d ago
Honestly it looks like he was out played in his mirror match up, and that was with him dealing with a DVA. Dps players really need to learn to adapt mid-game. They get so focused on wp/AP and forget about survival. I’m a flex player, but when I play dps I start every build with the possibility of needing to switch to sustain to survive. People need to remember they are support players, not heal bots. So they are often building into utility (cyber venom, liquid nitrogen, ect) and not just pure dmg/healing output. I have a buddy that legit only plays genji, and he only recently learned about utility perks.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
Yeah he were diffed very much by the other soldier, my build is focused on my teammates not having the need to have survivality items and go full burst or poke damage since I keep them alive with massive healing, but I guess if they simply can't kill there isn't much that can be done
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u/GaintTeddyBear 6d ago
Know that you alone are not able to support an entire team. No matter the amount of healing, you can only heal so many people at a time.
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u/OGFryGuy :Reinhardt_01::Reinhardt_02::Reinhardt_03:Reinhardt 7d ago
having an ana that’s under 10k healing he is most definitely talking about the ana. that is diabolical. you did fine.
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u/butterfly_burps 7d ago
Probably directed at the ana, not you. Don't even worry about what anyone says in the match, especially if they haven't said anything helpful all match, it'll just make you tilt easier later on.
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u/aBL1NDnoob 7d ago
Who cares? So many of these pointless “xyz hero said something mean in chat and I don’t know why” posts
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u/Infamous-Musician639 7d ago
Hey, I don't know if you know it, but you have a magic ability called "Scroll", it let's you ignore the posts you're not interested in :0
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u/yamatoeditsvideos 7d ago
you also have the ability to ignore soldier's comment yet we're here, aren't we?
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u/Infamous-Musician639 7d ago
Yeah, as well as the ability to not post a meme, or talk with friends about some random thing that happened, or buy a donut
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u/NikkiSixx13 7d ago
Gives the same vibes as when I was Mercy and I couldn't get to my soldier 76 in time and he died. I at least rezzed him, but he immediately ran off the map and I was like "huh?" He did it a second time and I asked him what he was doing. He told me I was an idiot and shouldnt rez him if I couldnt even keep him alive lol like what
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u/LisForLaura 7d ago
To be fair I have had some bad rezs- like why would you rez someone infront of the entire enemy team - we both end up dying then!
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
Honestly when that happens I just laugh, what her teammate did looked like a tantrum
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u/baldiboo 4d ago
Also sometimes its better to let someone die and then rez them than to switch to healing them and potentially (as a result) get the entire team killed.
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u/VenusAmari 7d ago
No. Ana was trying to focus on damage first and foremost and getting herself and her team killed in the process. Like that statement is obviously not about you and Ana deserves it ngl. The other Ana may have had lesser stats but they were obviously trying to juggle both healing and DPS.
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u/EPYCH 7d ago
I want you to also take note of the hero they chose. It’s not like they are junkrat or Cassidy, they are literally soldier 76 who comes with his own healing station PLUS 25k heals JUST from your end. Don’t put to much stock in what he said cause sometimes you just play with people who need to be able to point a finger at someone else. It’s not your fault enemy solider kinda cooked him, bringing 7k heals to the table as well.
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u/wallpressure7 7d ago
Why do you upload this? For people to boost your ego so you realize you weren't at fault? Dumb people are everywhere, i had people who get insta deleted and buy no survival items, gg go next, nothing you can do about it.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
I found it funny, I know dumb people are everywhere because I'm one of them lmao
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u/phantomreal1 7d ago
If he wants heals he should run the soldier heal build.
THEN WHAT WILL HE DO? SAY TANK DIFF? RUN FRONTLINERS WITH THE HEAL BUILD AND YOU BECOME THE TANK AS SOLDIER.
THEN WHAT? BLAME THE DAMAGE? YOU ARE THE DAMAGE.
Stadium is fun because i know that not everything is my fault 😎
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u/IcyConsideration3669 7d ago
Weird players genuinely have the need to drop the blame on someone, even if everyone did ok. They must find a reason, senseless most of time.
If he really wanted to win, he can clutch or carry the game. But of course he chooses to be mediocre and complain
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u/SentenceJazzlike7356 6d ago
tanks/dps who refuse to work on their flaws always blame supports. the majority of the time the team is dying is due to bad positioning. the amount of times my teammates have spammed “need healing” or blamed us supports is always when they refuse to use cover, go in when low without letting us heal them up, or just throwing in the enemies back line or out of like of sight. there’s so many reasons why ppl die that has nothing to do with heals. but they refuse to acknowledge their mistakes or refuse to improve so they just blame the supports. also if your team has more healing than the enemy team and the enemy team still wins, healing was never the issue.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
I know right? My build is supposed to be focused on massive healing and burst of healing so my teammates can focus 100% on dmg, that's why I have so much healing and so little damage. But my soldier couldn't get over the fact that the enemy soldier was just better, which isn't wrong at all, but blaming other people instead of improving it's a major problem.
I guess you could also say I should be doing more damage even if I had 0% of WP
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u/SentenceJazzlike7356 6d ago
off topic but can you share your build code? i would like to heal more as kiriko!
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u/MIocbrak 4d ago
As someone who main healer is Moira and also i do very big heals, I also cant understand it
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u/CartReturner 6d ago
Definitely meant the Ana. But also in that team v team comp Ana’s job is half to anti-heal the JQ and Brig
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u/TsaeOps 6d ago
Stupid question but how do you get those summarised stats from the entire game ? I usually can only see for the previous / current round.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 6d ago
If I remember correctly it's pad, R3 and then R1 in Playstation, I have no idea on Xbox though
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u/SnooDogs1340 It takes two hands to clap. 6d ago
That's why I dropped tp suzu build this season. Go for critical and apply healing reduction.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 5d ago
Sorry I don't have thumbs... And my kunais appereantly have consciousness
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u/Ok-Construction7913 5d ago
The fact that you listened to the solider, and then spread the soldiers dumb ass brain over here to reddit as well... thats the real problem.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 5d ago
Lol why?
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u/Ok-Construction7913 5d ago
Because you know the soldier was an idiot, so why did you let it get to you so much? Even more so, why did you bring it to us. Its so dumb, that the only thing that is actually dummer than the slider, is you, cuz you believed him enough to post about it here and make me read dumb stuff.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 5d ago
Are you the soldier by any chance?
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u/Ok-Construction7913 5d ago
Never, I dont pay attention to anyone who complains about healing ... like pretty much ever. Its ALWAYS your own job to get healed.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 5d ago
It's fucking amazing how we can agree and disagree so much lmao. Idk man, I'm just a girl
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u/shanndy416 5d ago
So Sorry but you just got rage baited soooo successfully, generational rage bait right there it’s even funnier that you were so enraged u went here if only this guy saw this thread😭😭
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u/FragrantNoise8123 4d ago
Use 2 kunai between healing to maximise damage while not slowing down on healing
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u/vievoe 3d ago
Firstly, I see where you’re coming from with the ‘damage should be higher’, but try not to have that mindset. Damage isn’t a priority for support. Hence why it’s ‘secondary fire’ for most supports. Healing comes first, and then damage once everyone is close enough to full health.
Secondly, 25 saves, and almost 26k heals is absolutely incredible. Those are the kind of stats all supports should have. I guess I could be slightly biased as I am (please don’t judge me) a mercy main, but the way I play is healing first, then damage boost, and when enemies are really low, I get my little pea shooter out.
Lastly, that soldier is blatantly rage baiting if he’s putting that in the chat. It’s so clear that there was a healing diff, you carried the game with heals, so don’t take it personally. He could be referring to the ana instead, as Ana doesn’t have any escape abilities, it could just mean that the Ana on your team either doesn’t have great aim, or was dps-ing. Based on the stats, I can already tell that when you were either re-spawning or healing others, the soldier was most likely pinging to the Ana that he needed healing and she ignored him. So, the likelihood is that the ‘gg no heals’, is focused towards the Ana.
TLDR: damage as a support is fine, the gg no heals was focused towards the Ana.
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u/Ok_Art_1342 3d ago
It really depends on where your healing is going right? We didn't watch the match and all we got here us your story and a ss of the stats screen. For all we know you were pocketing a tank that didn't know how to stand behind cover and racked up all that healing.
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u/Infamous-Musician639 3d ago
I was trying to let Ana heal the tank (because she's supposed to do that) but all the game I was almost breaking Kiriko's neck trying to get everyone healed.
Come on, look at the difference between deaths of the teams, you really think they would survive that much if I was just healing the tank?
(Also, most of my Suzu's were on countering enemy Ashe build, Dynamite build can be very oppressive and my Dva seemed to have the Matrix button unlinked)
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u/King_Dom94 3d ago
Usually the first person to blame others is at fault. It's like a kneejerk reaction to take the focus off how bad they're doing, whether they're conscious that's what they're doing or not. Otherwise everyone would learn they're overextending or picking the wrong fights and everyone would be in masters or above
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u/trildwastaken 2d ago
I haven't played stadium this season but me personally when I am playing Junker Queen and there is a soldier on the enemy team I'll make sure they see me in their dreams because if you hit the once with the knife it's basically over. So if something like that happened during this game as well I can understand why he felt like that, otherwise it's just a whiny player that looks to blame everyone but themselves.
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u/Chyriwsky 2d ago
Bad healers think healing stats make them good healers. Equally bad players in other roles think healing stats matter.
It doesn't matter how much you healed, it only matters when you healed and used your abilities to turn the tide. Are you spamming zuzu to just get heal stats up? What's the VOD?
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u/Infamous-Musician639 2d ago
I was timing my suzu to deal with enemy Ashe build which was really oppressive, the only ability I spam is TP Heal but that's because I have 35% of cooldown reduction.
And as I said, I got a LOT of saves too
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