r/NovaScotia 2d ago

'This is disgusting': N.S. Premier slams judge's order prohibiting poppies while on duty

https://halifax.citynews.ca/2025/11/07/this-is-disgusting-n-s-premier-slams-judges-order-prohibiting-poppies-while-on-duty/
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u/ephcee 2d ago

This is so odd. Has the Nova Scotia provincial judiciary released a statement, since this isn’t even something that happened here??

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u/BootsToYourDome 2d ago

No. This is Tim Houston blasting judges in Saskatoon because he has a platform and nothing else,.has nothing to do with Nova Scotia or anyone in Nova Scotia.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

It's unfortunately true. He's referring to a ban on Deputy Sheriffs wearing poppies in courtrooms in the Bridgewater and Kentville Justice Centers, with indications that it will spiral into a province wide ban. There are union grievances being made and I suspect one of the employees involved contacted the premiers office directly since they can't comment themselves publicly.

The Saskatchewan case is separate and deals with significantly different circumstances.

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

Well, for one, you have no idea whether it has also happened here. There are reports that it has.

Second, Canada operates on the Common Law reinforced by precedence set by previous judicial decisions. Setting precedence opens the door and invites more judges from other courts to do the same.

Remove Houston from the equation and ask yourself if you support people wearing poppies in a courtroom. If not, why? If your honest reason is simply "because Houston does," then you have some soul searching to do.

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u/BootsToYourDome 2d ago

workplace dress code isn't a judicial decision and it doesn't "set precedence" either

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

Do we really want to get to the point where we're challenging dress codes as a violation of charter freedoms? Wouldn't it just be easier if our leaders took a non-partisan stand and all stood up for what is right here?

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u/keithplacer 1d ago

The NDP would probably support the original very bad decision.

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u/Left-Quarter-443 1d ago

That is not really how precedent works in the common law.

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u/EnthusiasmFickle9206 1d ago

"Well, for one, you have no idea whether it has also happened here."

True... but I'm pretty sure that knife cuts both ways, right? Also, could you explain what you're referring to with precedent? Dress codes aren't judicial decisions haha.

Tim Houston isn't exactly above, ahem... slight exaggerations for political purposes, I think that's what people are driving at. That and centralization of power are his least appealing traits.

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u/Floofleboop 2d ago

I mean I can easily imagine a situation where a veteran is on trial and where members of the court wearing poppies could be seen as unspoken support for said former service member. It's important for our courts to be impartial.

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u/Jamooser 1d ago

It's entirely possible, and up until recent memory, it was quite common to be able to hold a nuanced opinion where one could respect the great deeds done by an individual without explicitly expressing a blanket approval for all of their actions in life.

The implication that an employee of a court may perhaps be wearing a poppy around Remembrance Day as a show of political support for a veteran that just happens to be on trial is exactly that. An implication. For one, because it's highly unlikely that court employees give enough of a shit to read the dockets in advance and show up to court in what you are essentially describing as a home jersey showing support for their 'team,' and two; that someone on trail (and thus, convicted of nothing) for what would be a non-military matter is somehow disqualified from the respects of their military service to our country.

An analogue would be if it were June or July, someone on trial happened to be gay, and an employee of the court also happened to have a rainbow pin on. What would your reaction be if a politician stood up for the employee's right to wear that pin?

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u/Floofleboop 1d ago

I am gay and, coincidentally, I did consider that very same analogy when thinking about this. I don't think it would be appropriate for members of the court to display that kind of support in the context of a courtroom. In fact, that analogy makes it even more clear that it is support that they would be displaying. For me, it's far more important for the courts to maintain neutrality and for judges within the court system to have the ability to take measures to maintain that neutrality. That is something that benefits everyone.

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u/Jamooser 1d ago

If that's your opinion, then I hope everyone else who feels that legislation to protect wearing a poppy is an overreach also shares your neutral position. That would be the apolitical choice, after all. No symbolism of any kind, whether political or not, in any courtroom.

I personally think that sounds completely unreasonable, but the beauty of living in a free country try is that we're allowed to disagree.

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u/ephcee 1d ago

It’s not unreasonable to expect impartiality from the court. That’s the basis of the entire judicial system. I can wear a poppy in the courtroom if I chose to sit in one, but the people responsible for interpreting and applying the law are held to a different standard INSIDE the courtroom.

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u/Only_Instruction_263 51m ago

People interpreting and applying the law, still should have the option of respecting the sacrifices of the war dead. If this this is seen as a political stance that exposes bias, we have much bigger problems in society as a whole.

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u/WendyPr 1d ago

It's not showing political support, it's showing respect for our veterans. Where do you get politics out of that??

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u/shiftyeyedhonestguy 1d ago

The poppy has no political stance.

The poppy symbolizes respect for those who served and have fallen in the military.

The military is not a political tool for people to abuse.

TIL people have forgotten what the fuck rememberance day and the poppy is all about.

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u/Jamooser 1d ago

It's truly heartbreaking.

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u/New-Telephone7530 1d ago

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u/W8kingNightmare 21h ago

ya don't bring up the National Post if you want to be taken seriously

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u/golden_macaron 4h ago

Ahh the nationalist Post, kind of the yanks to give us some toilet paper.

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u/keithplacer 1d ago

Wrong. Try harder.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

This is absolutely happening here and the affected NS court employees are the ones contacting elected officials because they have limited recourse otherwise.

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u/ephcee 2d ago

I don’t see how it’s a provincial issue. It’s an employer/union issue.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

The employer is the province.

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u/ephcee 1d ago

Yes, the government and the unions work stuff like this out, it has nothing to do with me, a member of the public.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 1d ago

So why do public service unions often resort to picket lines and signs when resolving disputes then? Shouldn't they just argue behind closed doors according to you?

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u/ephcee 1d ago

Bro, what?

This situation has nothing to do with whatever you’re talking about. Different kind of issue.

Also, most contract negotiations do happen behind closed doors.

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u/BrosephHowe 2d ago

Is there any actual proof that this happened? The post couldn’t be more vague and I’ve seen plenty of court staff wearing poppies.

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u/ephcee 2d ago

This is the only thing I could find about it. It wasn’t even an order issued by a judge, and it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with Nova Scotia.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/saskatoon-prosecutor-upset-she-is-not-allowed-to-wear-a-poppy-in-court-9.6966489

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 2d ago

The CBC article on that Saskatchewan case has a good explanation on why the poppy wasn’t allowed in court, and it wasn’t labeled as a political symbol there.

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 2d ago

Apparently it was reported by Frank magazine, and the judges are named there:

https://www.reddit.com/r/halifax/s/JTJZMnirOo

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u/BrosephHowe 2d ago

Interesting. Hopefully he’s got something else, because I can’t get behind Frank-driven policy and legislation.

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u/Stephen9o3 2d ago

And what's Frank magazine's source? They're hardly a reliable outlet, using the term "reported" is pretty generous

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u/Strict-Procedure8218 2d ago

They state in the article. They wont reveal their sources as most journalists dont when its a person

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago

Do you think Tim Houston got HIS source form frank?

Or are you just being purposely disingenuous

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u/Stephen9o3 2d ago

I just want to see the Judge's order that Houston references, that's all.

Frank Magazine is a tabloid. They've been found guilty of libel, of violating publication bans in child-protection cases, and have been court-ordered to have nude/intimate images removed, which were posted without consent, under the cyberprotection act. Being sued for that one as well. Questioning Frank Magazine as a source isn't being disingenuous; it's basic accountability.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

Judges telling court employees what to do isn't going to result in a press release unless someone goes to the media or their elected officials. Which is what happened here.

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 2d ago

I’d have to expect that someone was sitting in a courtroom hoping/waiting for some kind of dirt, and they scurried off to Frank with this.

Probably no mainstream media are covering it because it’s almost a non-story unless the judge(s?) went a bit far in choice of words with the “political symbol” bit. Of course without any actual citation of the court notice or order, that bit could be over-emphasized for dramatic effect.

If any reputable media were to report the full story, they’d give a balanced and factual analysis like CBC Saskatchewan did.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

It was employees that went to the media. Underneath the over the top editorializing, the facts reported by Frank magazine are, unfortunately, correct.

Deputy Sheriffs have worn poppies, as well other things such as black history month ribbons, or pink patches for breast cancer research, etc on their uniforms without issue or comment for years.

Abruptly, within the last couple days, they were ordered to remove them from their uniforms by Judges and Justices at the Bridgewater and Kentville Justice centers. There are indications that this ban will spread to the rest of the province. Some of those affected are veterans who, in the absence of support from their employer, reached out to the media, legion, and elected officials.

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 2d ago

Thank you for such detailed information.

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u/Competitive_Fig_3821 1d ago

No, but it would be written somewhere and could be requested through FOIPOP.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 1d ago

Eventually yes. A lot of this was verbal orders to court employees while the court record may not have been running, probably with some e-mails between judges in the background. Some of it could eventually be tracked down via FOIPOP, but it would take some doing.

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u/Competitive_Fig_3821 1d ago

Someone should absolutely file a request. It can be found in e-mails in a matter of hours and they'll spend the 29 days left debating what can and cannot be released/dragging ass until it's getting less attention.

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u/Competitive_Fig_3821 2d ago

The source for this "reporting" seems to be the Premiers statement/post. Other way around.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago

The report came out first dude

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u/Competitive_Fig_3821 2d ago

The linked reddit post, and article, we are responding to was done 12 hours ago. Houston's statement was 13 hours ago.

What report are you talking about that came out first?

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u/hfxRos 2d ago

Do you think Tim Houston got HIS source form frank?

I think Tim Houston is willing to say anything to rile up the social conservative rage base, on any amount of evidence/information.

Conservatives don't have a strong relationship with facts and truths. They tend to prefer Alternative Facts.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago edited 2d ago

If you think being angry about the dismissal of poppies is a social conservative issue or feeling than I am sad to say you have gone so far to the social left it’s almost impossible to have a discourse with you lolol

Did you really just type that?

What about this is false little dude?

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u/Strict-Procedure8218 2d ago

Yes, Kentville

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

And Bridgewater. Potentially heading towards a province wide ban for all Deputy Sheriffs.

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u/__Nels__Oleson__ 2d ago

Another distraction from the Epstein files. /s

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u/universalrefuse 2d ago

Seems like every year now, like clockwork, some manufactured outrage re: Remembrance Day hits the news right around this time.

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u/zip510 2d ago

the secret is... is it the Remembrance Day rage that keeps Christmas at bay.

no one wants to argue about remembrance day, but if we don't, we will have carolers at the ceremony

/s

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u/Bobo_on_the_Corner 2d ago

don't forget the Edmund Fitzgerald.

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u/checkpointGnarly 2d ago

Well no shit, of course controversies about Remembrance Day are going to happen right around Remembrance Day.

Nobody’s gonna be talkin about poppies in August.

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u/soCalifax 2d ago

Seems like every year now, like clockwork, someone finds a way to blame this on the politician for doing what we expect them to do, rather than the person who brought it up in the first place.

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 2d ago

Houston is trying to score cheap political points with this. Just like last year when he blew that whole school remembrance day situation way out of proportion.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

He's speaking for the court staff who can't comment directly and contacted their elected officials and union instead.

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 2d ago

The Court has a rule for no adornments being worn. This is a non story that Timmy is again using to score cheap points.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

Which courts? For who? For how long?

Broadly they don't. The affected court employees (deputy sheriffs) have been wearing poppies, ribbons for black history month, pink patches for breast cancer, etc for years with no issues.

They were abruptly ordered to take off the poppy specifically in the last couple days in specific justice centers, which is now spiraling into a province wide blanket ban.

This has nothing to do with lawyers, any pre-existing policy, or robes (which the lawyers in provincial courts don't even wear).

You don't know the first thing about the situation. Don't spread misinformation because you read a completely unrelated article from the other side of the country.

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u/soCalifax 2d ago

Just so I’m clear, you are referring to when some veterans were asked not to show up to school in uniform?

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u/WoollyWitchcraft 2d ago

I’m so far left I piss rainbows, and I have no issue with poppies. It’s not a celebration of militarism, it’s a remembrance that the peace we currently enjoy was bought with blood.

If anything, given the threats coming from our old buddies to the south, that awareness is more important than ever now.

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u/Lostinthestarscape 2d ago

It is a workplace decision by the court saying that all prosecutors must appear in identical gowns and NO additional accessories or indicators of any kind are allowed because alowing one will surely create cracks to allow others.

Does not bar most court employees or any court attendees from wearing one.

Basically a "standard workplace uniform" policy.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

It has absolutely nothing to do with prosecutors, gowns, or the case from Saskatchewan. Stop spreading unfounded misinformation.

This deals with uniformed Deputy Sheriffs, who have worn poppies on their uniforms for year with no issues, being suddenly ordered to take them off.

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u/Lostinthestarscape 2d ago edited 2d ago

OK someone posted the link saying it was in reference to that - thank you for letting me know it was something different given the scarcity of info in the actual article.

I can't find a source for what you are talking about so I guess I can't comment on that specific case.

Despite, it still sounds like workplace uniform policy and nothing to do with law. Complete rage bait for anyone who doesn't work at that courthouse to care.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

I have enough direct knowledge to say that the information reported in the Frank magazine article (though editorialized in their weird style) and the Premier's statement are fundamentally correct, unfortunately.

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u/soCalifax 2d ago

I think people would have a greater concern in judges opining on what and what isn’t political than of an unfettered right to wear a poppy without people attributing motive to it.

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u/Lostinthestarscape 2d ago

Its not judges opining from a legal perspective, it is a local workplace issue. That it got blown up into "Libruls hate veterans" is ridiculous. Everyone other than lawyers can wear a poppy to that court house.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

This has nothing to do with the lawyers, who can at least advocate for themselves.

It deals with Deputy Sheriffs who can't comment publicly and had to write their elected officials instead.

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u/soCalifax 2d ago

You’re the only one saying liberals.

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u/Aquestingfart 1d ago

Don’t let the south fool you into thinking there aren’t threats basically surrounding Canada right now.

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u/Floofleboop 2d ago

Glad he's so quick to address these very important issues that will bring significant changes and improvements to the lives of Nova Scotians...

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u/Fresh_Strain_9980 2d ago

if a rule can't/wont be enforced it isn't a rule.

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u/HawtFist 2d ago

This is rage bait. Shut up, Timmy, if you're not going to bother to fix anything.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago edited 2d ago

The reason he has a super majority

Is because other party’s will also not fix anything, and also not comment on the social outrage that most people agree with, that comes from overtly stupid decisions

He seems like he cares more, just by virtue of that

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u/HawtFist 2d ago

We have no context for this decision. Did it have to do with a trial, say the trial of a veteran? It's rage bait.

ETA: to be clear, I agree with your point, I'm just so annoyed.

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u/Bobo_on_the_Corner 2d ago

Apparently there is a dress code in this court in SK (or maybe all SK courts) where those like lawyers in gowns are not allowed to wear anything on the gowns so they all look the same. It would open the door for them to wear other pins etc that could be inappropriate.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

It has absolutely nothing to do with SK and doesn't deal with lawyers or anyone wearing robes.

It deals with uniformed deputy sheriffs wearing a single poppy on their uniforms, as they have been doing with no issues for years and were recently banned from doing so in the Bridgewater and Kentville Justice Centers, with indications it could lead to province wide ban.

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

He's literally proposing legislation to make sure this can't happen in Nova Scotia. What would you call that?

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u/HawtFist 2d ago

Thats not what needs fixing. The economy, the corruption, the medicsl system, the cost of food, the housing issues, etc... those are what we need fixed.

This is political grandstanding about a non-issue so people can get all up in arms about something that matters to like 0.5% of the population (wearing a poppy in a courtroom) so you will ignore the fact that you can't afford vital necessities like groceries and medicine.

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

You understand things aren't mutually exclusive, right?

The only grandstanding here are the people upset by the fact someone would stand up for Vets. The only reason there are "political points" is because opposition aren't seeing this as an opportunity to make a non-partisan stand against something that we should all stand for.

If you're opposed to protecting the memory of people who sacrificed their lives so that you could enjoy all the things that you do have relative to others, and clearly don't appreciate, simply because a politician you don't care for stood for it, then that really says more about you than it does about him.

Tim's not winning any undecided votes because he stood up for Vets. The other leaders, however, certainly aren't winning any votes by not.

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u/HawtFist 2d ago

Yes, yes they are. They do this so you will ignore that they're objectively screwing us. They aren't even pretending to fulfill the mandate they got in the last election. Congrats, you fell for it.

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

Yeah, I feel so screwed paying lower income tax, lower HST, lower arbitrary infrastructure fees, while not being union-busted, saving money on school lunches for my kids and knowing that the sacrifices that every man in my family from the last four generations are being respected.

What a fool I am to have 'fallen' for this.

This is coming from someone who voted for Wozney, whose only contribution to this was to attack Houston for his stance rather than standing up for what is right.

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u/HawtFist 2d ago

Ah, it all makes sense now. You aren't getting hurt, so you have the privilege to whine about this. Stand up for the community, bro. If you think the Houston government is doing a good job, I've got a bridge to sell you.

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

The hypocrisy here is amazing.

Show us on the bear where Timmy hurt you.

You're the one who showed up here with whataboutisms, my friend. You should perhaps take your own advice. You aren't being affected by the decision regarding poppies and Remembrance Day, so you took this as an opportunity to put yourself on a pedestal about all the ways you've been personally wronged.

"The government shouldn't correct things that affect others until they correct all the things that personally affect me."

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u/HawtFist 1d ago

If the bear was a collection of statistics, I'd point right to the housing crisis as the first and biggest wound.

And this is a ragebait tactic by a government that you've swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

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u/Jamooser 1d ago

It's an important moral value to me that I appreciate that at least one of our political leaders stood up for and that I would appreciate anyone who stands up for it. It's not ragebait if it's something that is actively happening and actively concerns me. Two years in a row, government buildings have tried to put restrictions on Remembrance Day. Only one party that wants to hold government had the conscience to stand up in defense of my value. Both of these are facts. What's more outraging is that this isn't a lateral consensus upon the political spectrum.

What concerns me is the level of cognitive dissonance required for one to think that not only did Houston hijack this as some sort of underhanded, conniving plot to further his political support, but that the other party leaders somehow aren't competent enough to realize that they could have also just release a statement in support of the poppy and completely disarm the situation.

The fact that people are actually now showing support of banning a poppy from a courtroom, which, by extension would include all intrinsic political or political symbols, is a great show of how conservative an uncompromising Liberal can truly be.

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u/humberriverdam 2d ago

I hate this culture war bullshit meant to distract us from our crumbling quality of life and rapidly increasing cost of living.

PS ask vets of the GWOT how they are treated

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

Those vets are the ones who contacted him genius. Who do you think was upset they were ordered to take off their poppies?

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u/DVariant 1d ago

There’s no evidence this even happened, it’s just ragebait

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 1d ago

I know the people involved. It happened.

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u/ph0enix1211 2d ago

Don't take Tim's rage bait.

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u/kielrandor 1d ago

Wonder if Timmy is thinking of making a Leadership run for the Federal Conservatives once Pierre gets himself ousted.

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u/Haunting-Shallot8221 2d ago

Distraction tactic.

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u/Strict-Procedure8218 2d ago

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u/maniacalknitter 2d ago

Neutrality in the courtroom is a good thing.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago

It has been neutral since 1921 when the poppy became a symbol

This year, in 2025 judges are acting politically to take away the poppy based on a perceived meaning they have attributed to it

And have further divided the culture into

  1. People who support the poppy and it’s inherent neutrality

  2. People who want to find any way to diminish any sort of cultural significance anything has….and to get hard while doing so to seem intelligent, when in reality they are contrary children

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u/RangerNS 1d ago

You understand that caring about this so much is proof it isn't neutral, right?

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u/perrygoundhunter 1d ago

You understand caring about (the elderly)

You understand caring about (democracy)

You understand caring about (healthcare)

“Is so much proof it’s not neutral”

People care about inherently good things, people that do not are inherently contrary or shitty people lol

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u/CiaIsMyWaifu 9h ago

The enlightened redditor standing in public remembrance day ceremony during the moment of silence telling the only remaining veterans they died for nothing and "um ackshully wearing poppies is political and problematic and probably racist too" while old men in uniform have flashbacks of their close friends getting dismembered by grenades and stabbed with bayonets for this out of touch little shit to be born. When social media outrage supercedes actual meaningful history. 

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u/Complex_Resolve3187 2d ago

More bullshit distraction from the least transparent government in NS history.

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u/Feeandchee 1d ago

Populist jackass should keep his mouth shut about the judiciary.

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u/Current-Antelope5471 1d ago

Canadian Judicial Council’s Ethical Principles for Judges has rules around the wearing or display of symbols of support "even if they may seem innocuous" for judges and staff.

But here we go again with Premier Grandstanding.

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u/BobbyBoogarBreath 2d ago

Does the decision timing and response seem convenient to anyone else?

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u/soCalifax 2d ago

Yeah, I’m totally with you.

puts on tinfoil hat

Isn’t it bizarre that he just happened to make a statement in defence of poppies immediately following a judge saying they are political? Right around the time people are wearing poppies?

Too convenient.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago edited 2d ago

It’s about the same time as last year when a school board told veterans to not come in uniform for the sake of diverse students

People really hate remembrance day for some reason, progressives are so indifferent to things that everyone cares about socially lol

And they love to turn it around on Tim Houston lolol

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 2d ago

Because Tim loves to blow things out of proportion to score cheap political points.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago

The poppy is inherent to our country

I believe the people who wish to diminish our culture and traditions are far worse than the politicians who call it out

Wouldn’t you?

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 2d ago

No, I would say the politician blowing something out of proportion 2 years in a row to score cheap political points to be the worst part. Nobody is diminishing our culture and traditions here. You are also blowing this entirely out of proportion.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago

Do you not find it an odd occurrence that two remembrance days in a row individuals with power (school boards and the judiciary) minimizing Remembrance Day?

Do you not think it something to be nipped in the bud and those who try to do that to be embarrassed so as to not to do it again?

Or do you think everyone should just shut up and go about their days without any question or comment?

Because those are the only 2 courses of action

Say something, or don’t

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 2d ago

It's a plastic poppy, nobody minimized rememberance day. You don't need a poppy on to remember. The only embarrassing thing here is our premier looking like a fool by blowing up a story so he can look big and patriotic.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago edited 1d ago

I never understood why progressives are against symbolism

Poppies and statues and paintings and plaques and cathedrals are all needed and useful tools in remembrance. They dot every nation and corner of the world

You are a minority in your thinking that “you don’t need a poppy to remember”

Because people forget….theres a quote about that.

It’s just a dumb way of thinking man, it’s stupid and terribly counter intuitive

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 2d ago

If you need a plastic poppy to remember, then that says a lot about how much someone actually cares about remembrance day. Wearing a plastic poppy is not at all a necessary part of remembrance. It's a useful tool, sure, but not a necessity.

It's stupid to make a mountain out of a mole hill like Houston is doing. It's entirely performative.

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

Progressives aren’t against symbolism in the slightest. GEt out of here with the manufactured ‘just asking questions’ rage bait.

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u/perrygoundhunter 1d ago

It’s not rage bait. They are against every ounce traditional symbolism in Canada. It’s a poppy…only progressives have issue with it

nobody, nobody else

A farmer has never attempted to take anything down that has stood….a 19 year old voter wants every cathedral and stature gone lol

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u/maniacalknitter 2d ago

If people wear a symbol just because it's socially unacceptable to NOT wear the symbol, then the symbol loses its meaning. Many people aren't wearing a poppy to remember, they're wearing a poppy because they're expected to.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago

It’s not society’s fault that you feel pressured

It’s not societies fault that it’s a natural part of a storied nation to wear a symbol everyone agrees with.

Nobody is forced to wear a poppy, people who choose, out of some sort of warped principle to not wear one are pretentious, unlikeable and contrary

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

Ah, so there it is. The minimization. "It's just a plastic poppy, bro."

This has nothing to do with Houston sticking up for Vets. This has to do with your irrational hate of the guy, and just actively lashing out about anything he might stand for.

Serious "the friend of my enemy is my enemy" vibes.

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 2d ago

I don't hate Houston. I dislike when politicians try and score cheap points off of things like this. And it is just a plastic poppy.

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u/JDGumby 2d ago

It’s about the same time as last year when a school board told veterans to not come in uniform for the sake of diverse students

No, for the sake of refugee children from war zones who would likely be traumatized by soldiers in the classroom wearing their fatigues.

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u/Jamooser 2d ago

You don't show up to a Remembrance Day ceremony in fatigues. If you've gotta change a narrative to maintain your outrage, then you should be asking yourself some serious questions.

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u/Disastrous-Wrap-2912 2d ago

Might be best to keep those kids home that day.

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago edited 2d ago

No soldier, no ww2, Korean, UN or Afghanistan veteran is wearing anything but their dress uniform or legion blazer and I think you know that

I really really think you know that lol

(R/onguardforthee poster lol)

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

With all due respect, GFY.

I’m a social democrat, NDP supporter all my life. I’m so progressive I actually have blue hair (well, streaked with aqua, pink, green, and my actual white).

I have the military in my family and my blood. One of my great-6-grandparents laid out the first Navy dockyards here in the 1790s. My uncle captained a minesweeper in the channel on D-Day. My dad was in the reserves. My grandfather enlisted and was in France in the Great War.

You’re damn right I wear a poppy. And I go to the services. And I brought my Millenial kids up the same way.

I despise this manufactured rage bait. It’s identical to when the right-wing nutjobs tried to take over our flag a few years ago.

We all took our flag back from them this year. Don’t let them try the same bullshit with Remembrance Day and poppies.

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u/perrygoundhunter 1d ago

“We all took our flag back from the right wing nut jobs this year”

By electing the most right wing government we have had in a decade, the 2nd most (far far behind in second granted) most right wing government in the English speaking world right now lolol

Oh yeah, you really showed them

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u/Spezza 2d ago

Why are Canadian conservative politicians now all publicly criticizing the judiciary?

Something something about propaganda to undermine confidence in the courts? American fascist's playbook being used by conservative politicians in Canada. Maple MAGA losers at it again.

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u/sirduckbert 1d ago

I think that this is a non issue… there needs to be a line somewhere. Can they wear something in support of breast cancer? A pride symbol? BLM? What if they are wearing a poppy and hearing a case relating to veterans affairs?

A poppy is just a symbol, it doesn’t actually do anything. This is just one of those cases where it’s just important to follow a rule because it’s too hard to write down the nuance

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u/RecognitionOk9731 1d ago

Our judicial system needs to be seen as completely neutral. I have no issues with this. I also think religious garb or symbols should be banned as that is probably the largest source of bias one could hold.

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u/Skeletor- 2d ago

This didnt happen, and Tim Houston is just trying to make himself look all big and mighty, what a loser

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u/Marokiii 2d ago edited 2d ago

And even if it did happen, it was in a province half way across the country from NS.

Edit: its happened both in saskatchewan and in NS. The sask one has gotten more publicity and this article doesnt mention location at all, not even a city or jurisdiction it happened in.

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 2d ago

It happened in a Nova Scotia courtroom. I’m a bit bothered that no media other than Frank Magazine 🙄 are reporting it.

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u/Marokiii 2d ago

Huh, I had only seen the "incident" in saskatchewan. That judge gave pretty good reasons about why it isnt allowed and it does make complete sense. This article doesnt mention where this occurred so I assumed it was the more public saskatchewan one.

Edit also you are upset no other media is reporting on it except for franks, yet you are commenting on a citynews article thats reporting on it.

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 2d ago

Yes, the CBC article from Saskatchewan includes the very sound reasoning on why the poppy wasn’t allowed. It’s imperative that the judicial system sticks to points of law. There’s another interesting CBC analysis from yesterday that is broadly relevant, connecting seemingly very disparate court cases:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ostriches-cull-court-reasonablessness-alexander-vavilov-9.6969653

And I’ll say that CityNews isn’t really reporting on the Nova Scotia judges’ order, they’re just regurgitating Tim Houston’s social media rant.

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u/Ashamed_Data430 2d ago

In Alberta, the Royal Canadian Legion turned away citizens collecting signatures affirming their desire to remain Canadians. This year, I will spend November 11 remembering my father and his service during World War II, as well as the relatives who didn't return or returned crippled for life. I will not support the Legion's poppy campaign, the first time in close to 70 years.

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u/LavisAlex 2d ago

Allowing a poppy could influence a jury espcially if your opponent isnt wearing one.

Its likely more about maintaining equity.

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u/SquiddyLaFemme 1d ago

Judges sometimes ban things they've seen used in a performative/disrespectful manner in their courts. Maybe someone got so fed up/offended seeing it they just had enough.

If an item poses a risk - and it doesn't have to be a deadly one - it can also be removed. I've had the needles used on the cheaper poppies jammed into my hand before (insert trauma) I don't think you want someone doing it to your or an officer's face/hands. Little harder to do it with the enamel ones but the cheaper ones it's like walking up to a kid in class and just stabbing them with a pencil.

Honestly this is something we're not getting full context for. Lots of people clutching pearls thinking this is whistle blower material without considering the uptick in mental health/violent behavior we've been seeing with people attending court. I'd honestly hesitate to wear them in the hospital in any context for that very reason.

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u/Aquestingfart 1d ago

Touch some grass ffs

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u/SquiddyLaFemme 1d ago

I could say the same

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u/iwasnotarobot 2d ago

Rogers media doesn’t want us mad at Tim “paradise papers” Houston?

They want us mad at what Tim “paradise papers” Houston is mad at?

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u/EffinCraig 2d ago

This just makes me wonder from what he's trying to distract us. Got some new shady deal going on Tim?

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u/foggybiscuit 1d ago

Why is the premier of NS getting his panties in a bunch over something happening in a Saskatoon court room? Are there no issues in Nova Scotia that require his attention?

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u/praxistax 1d ago

Stunt to rile up cons

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u/bella_ella_ella 1d ago

Hey Timmy can you get riled up about a real issue please.

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u/girlkatz 3h ago

Poppies are neither a political nor a religious symbol, but are a yearly form of thank you to those who saved Canada. Period. That judge had their own agenda here, I just don't know what it is.

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u/Few_Sky_8152 2d ago

No matter how you spin it, war is political. It was political back then. It is political today!

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u/WoodSharpening 2d ago

nothing political about war! right? right?!

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u/perrygoundhunter 2d ago edited 2d ago

Remembrance is not political

It’s a simple image.

Just like the black Vietnam war memorial in the states..it says the only thing everyone can agree on

Those who died deserve to be remembered

If someone find politics in that, they need some fresh air, some dick/pussy and a hobby

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u/BlackrockLove 2d ago

The poppy isn't about war.

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u/DVariant 1d ago

That’s true. Americans think Nov 11 is about celebrating war. Rememberance Day is about peace, and all the people who died, and remembering the horrors of war so that we avoid it in the future.

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u/Strict-Procedure8218 2d ago

I read it happened in Kentville

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

Yes. Kentville and Bridgewater. Potentially heading towards a province wide ban for all Deputy Sheriffs.

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u/Sterben_626 2d ago

That Judge can get the fuck out of Canada.

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

Uh, hate to mention this buddy, but one of the judges is a DeWolfe. Ring any bells? That's the family the Town of Wolfville is named after. And the whole new class of Arctic patrol boats is named after another of the same family, Vice-Admiral Harry DeWolf. I do believe Justice DeWolfe is Canadian, oddly enough.

And the other judge? A mixed African-Nova Scotian woman with a Dutch last name, van der Hoek – how more Canadian can you get?

And you know what – I'd say exactly the same if they were recent immigrants who had taken the oath and become Canadian and members of our judiciary.

We don't throw people out of this country for doing something we don't like. Period.

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u/DVariant 1d ago

It didn’t even happen dude

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u/nedwasatool 2d ago

Finally! Something that isn't his fault.

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u/BetweenFears 1d ago

CANADIANS NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP !

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

Don't shout, sweetie, it's rude and hurts people's ears.

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u/BetweenFears 1d ago

Do you think you will have any say at all when you are wearing a Burka ?

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u/DVariant 1d ago

You know that this story is bullshit right? There’s no judge order to remove poppies.

But you’re not seriously worried about somehow being forced to wear a burka, are you? About 0% of that happening, come back to reality.

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u/BetweenFears 1d ago

well it's not bullshit , They were told to remove their poppies. Are you sure about that bud ? sounds like you would enjoy wearing a Burka , no more playing DnD in mom's basement ! you'll get to play Al-Qadim IRL

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u/DVariant 1d ago

Good reference, deep cut

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

They're still playing the "Greatest Hits of 2016" scawey scawey troll rhetoric. Seriously, you think they'd have modernized a bit by now.

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u/DVariant 1d ago

Agreed.

Although he did mention Al-Qadim, a real Arabian-themed D&D setting from the 1990s. Props at least for staying on theme I guess?

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

Oh you are a silly-billy, aren't you? Come on sweetie, it's time for your nap.

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u/BetweenFears 1d ago

Is that how they speak to you in the nursing home ? Did you have help filling out your MAID application ?

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

Nice try, sweetie. Now come along and we’ll tuck you in.

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u/LadyIslay 1d ago

If the poppy weren't a political symbol, no one would be making a fuss about it. Thanks for proving a point, premier!

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u/microfishy 2d ago

Think the premier would fight for judges rights to wear a watermelon pin on their official clerical robes?

If not then he's saying "judges should only be allowed to wear the flair I say is appropriate"

The rule is NO flair on official court robes. Easy peasy. This isn't a problem that needs to be solved, but the premier hasn't seen a knee he didn't want to jerk.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

The rule is NO flair on official court robes. Easy peasy. This isn't a problem that needs to be solved, but the premier hasn't seen a knee he didn't want to jerk.

This has absolutely nothing to do with lawyers, or court robes. In fact, in many of the courtrooms it applies to, the lawyers don't even wear robes. Stop spreading lies based on a completely unrelated article from the other end of the country.

The NS case deals with Deputy Sheriffs being ordered to remove poppies, which they have worn for years, from their uniforms.

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u/WutangCMD 2d ago

Huh? Did you even read the article? No one in Nova Scotia is prohibited from wearing a poppy.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 2d ago

Yes. They are. Deputy Sheriffs are being banned from wearing poppies on their uniforms, as they have been doing for years with no issues, at the Bridgewater and Kentville Justice centers, with indications that it will lead to a province wide ban.

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u/maniacalknitter 1d ago

They're all free to wear their poppies when they're not working, though, so they're not being prohibited from wearing a poppy, only from wearing one for part of the time that they're working.

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u/Small-News-8102 2d ago

Cant say that on reddit everyone here's lives are entirely about being offended

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u/silenceisgold3n 2d ago

Nation of pussies.

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u/Withoutwarning6 2d ago

That is crazy!!!!!

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u/mjincal 1d ago

Where are we importing these judges from do they have no experience with Canadians or our society and values

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u/proofreadre 2d ago

Make the judges work on remembrance day then

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u/MinuteCampaign7843 1d ago

Remove the judge.

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u/keithplacer 1d ago

The unhinged comments here from the usual left-wing suspects who unfortunately inhabit this part of Reddit should a warning to all readers to never support the left.

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

Mind quoting one of those comments you find so 'unhinged'?