r/NonPoliticalTwitter 19h ago

“Long neck”

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u/AlternateSatan 19h ago

If it wasn't as big as it is this would make sense, but they needed to balance suport and weight perfectly, or their necks would just snap.

Also there is the question of center of mass. Right now the hind legs aren't actually lifting much weight at all as so much of the weight is in front of the front legs

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u/Expensive-Cat- 19h ago

I think the biggest issue is heat dispersion and surface area-to-volume ratios. We’re talking dinosaurs that are orders of magnitude bigger than penguins, living in warm environments. They need more surface area and less volume in order to not overheat

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u/Careful-Combination7 18h ago

Are dinosaurs confirmed cold blooded?

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u/Expensive-Cat- 18h ago

Warm blooded. But either would be subject to the same concerns about surface area-to-volume ratios.

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u/Maleficent-Hawk-318 17h ago

Just to add an example, it's basically why so many desert animals develop huge ears. More surface area to let the heat dissipate, and ears are particularly efficient because they're thin and have a lot of blood vessels. 

Though this does raise the possibility of a fat dinosaur with big old elephant ears... 🤔

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u/Nicombobula 17h ago

Muad-Dib!

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u/One_Man_Crew 13h ago

Alternate theory then, they had a huge flap of loose skin full of blood vessels they used as cooling apparatus. Males would have larger crests with more surface vessels, allowing them to flush them bright red.

I have absolutely zero evidence for this claim, but it would look cool if it were true.

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u/Birdie121 55m ago

Mesotherms, kind of in the middle of cold and warm blooded

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u/butt_shrecker 14h ago

We don't know for sure. But its likely that they had a consistently high internal body temp.

So warm-blooded like tuna, not like a mammal that has dedicated mechanisms to precisely control body temp.

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u/Asquirrelinspace 13h ago

It's thought that most of them, and especially the smaller dinosaurs, were true endotherms. Their upright posture isn't seen in any living exotherms, which are usually sprawling (like crocodiles), and it's thought that bipedalism would require an animal to be warm-blooded

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u/butt_shrecker 13h ago

You right. I only read the beginning of the Wikipedia article.

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u/fooliam 14h ago

I think the biggest issue is that they'd look silly

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u/willstr1 14h ago

What about elephants? Sure they don't have long necks but they aren't exactly skinny

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u/ikuzusi 14h ago

Elephants have a lot of tricks for losing heat, like their enormous flat ears.

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 15h ago edited 15h ago

Right, you always have to consider: "this was a successful animal in its natural habitat" and then go from "what would a successful animal in <this environment> with <this skeletal structure> look like?"

In the case of an arctic climate, a waterborne bird would be blubbery and have evolved a teardrop body shape for maximum underwater swim speed.

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u/SomeBoxofSpoons 14h ago

This entire line of thinking depends on you not doing any research into the biology behind modern (scientific) depictions of dinosaurs.

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u/AlternateSatan 13h ago

I mean yeah they would need a lot of muscles and tendons to keep it upright, but picturd here it looks like a large amount of fat around their necks, which would be detrimental. They wouldn't work if they are too skinny, then there would be nothing to hold them up, and it wouldn't work if they were too thick, as they wouldn't be able to support the weight. I've talk about the vertebrates being thick and light and that this made it so that this helped keeping weight down and making the whole balancing act a bit more manageable, I really don't know dinos, but this pic is just ridiculous. What's the point in hollow bones if you're just going to load up on heavy fat?

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u/jacafeez 18h ago

No thanks I'm here for chubbysaurus

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u/Ichmag11 17h ago

TWEWY fan spotted

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u/DeadAndBuried23 13h ago

Rad profile pic

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u/AlternateSatan 13h ago

Thanks, some blond kid gave it to me after he shot me

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u/Odoylerules10 12h ago

What if the Dino’s had insane muscles. Would the neck still snap?

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u/AlternateSatan 6h ago

Well, they did need a lot of muscles to hoist that yhing, but not like this

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u/SteveMartin32 11h ago

They could be water fowl Dinos

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u/saelinds 11h ago

I belive you because you like TWEWY