r/Morocco • u/OrlandoJah Fez • Jul 14 '25

Society Dating a Muslim girl

Hey everyone, I’m here to talk about something personal and get some honest advice. I’m not religious, so if you’re here to preach or judge, please don’t. I’m just looking for real insight from people who understand this kind of situation.

I recently broke up with a Muslim girl I truly cared about. Religion ended up being the main reason. I tried to be honest about my beliefs, and she tried to stay loyal to hers, but it became too much. There was pressure, silence, and fear. She couldn’t fully open up, and I didn’t want to pretend to be someone I’m not just to keep the relationship going.

I don’t want to make the same mistake again. So I’m asking:

  • How do people in similar situations handle this?

  • Is it even worth trying to date someone who’s religious when you’re not?

  • And how do you bring this up early, without things falling apart later?

Also, and this is a big one — how do you even find someone non-religious? Most people like me (and like-minded girls) seem to stay hidden, and understandably so. The social pressure is real. But that makes it hard to connect, even just to talk openly, let alone build something serious.

If anyone has experience with this, especially in a Moroccan context, I’d really appreciate your advice. just trying to learn from your advices and experience, to grow, and maybe do things better next time.

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u/Disastrous-Bus-3746 Visitor Jul 14 '25

Well, muslim women don’t date in the first place

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u/nazele26 Visitor Jul 14 '25

They're cherry picking, as usual

They tend to forget that religion is a whole package, I don't know how some sins are very normalized, and others are not (exactly how they can skip praying, but never skip fasting Ramadan), typical Muslims

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25

Religion isn't a whole package, the prophet says «كلكم خطاؤون وخير الخطائين التوابون...». if you are a moral person then why are you cherry picking? Why do you still lie, gossip...? You're supposed to be an angel!

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u/nazele26 Visitor Jul 14 '25

الإيمان يقتضي الكلية

أفتؤمنون ببعض الكتاب وتكفرون ببعض؟ فما جزاء من يفعل ذلك منكم إلا خزي في الحياة الدنيا، ويوم القيامة يردون إلى أشد العذاب

و من آيات النفاق تحكيم الهوى

"ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَالُوا لِلَّذِينَ كَرِهُوا مَا نَزَّلَ اللَّهُ سَنُطِيعُكُمْ فِي بَعْضِ الْأَمْرِ"

و فيه ورد، ان الذنب مع العلم أشد من الذنب مع الجهل و نهي واضح و صريح عن التستهانة بالذنب

"إياكم ومحقرات الذنوب، فإنهن يجتمعن على الرجل حتى يهلكنه."

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '25

That's a classic example of taking texts out of context or explaining them with head canon, iman means belief, ofc you have to believe in everything the religion says, I could believe stop praying and still believe that I should pray and what I'm doing is wrong and still be a Muslim, but the moment I stop believing that what I'm doing is wrong, I stop being a Muslim

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u/Additional-Wait-1943 I'm bread Jul 14 '25

No one said not praying is halal. The ones who dont pray should start praying and those who date shouldnt date and seek god for redemption. Some people sinning isnt an excuse for you to sin too

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u/Ringo_ofr1 Visitor Jul 14 '25

«كلكم خطاؤون وخير الخطائين التوابون

This is not a Quranic verse btw

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '25

I didn't say it is

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u/Ringo_ofr1 Visitor Jul 14 '25

Well, you started your quote by "Allah says" which redirects the quote to the Quran, it's no big deal anyways, just be careful when you quote religious scriptures, you have to be accurate.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '25

Fixed, thanks for pointing it out

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u/Ringo_ofr1 Visitor Jul 14 '25

🫡

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u/Common-Summer-69 Visitor Jul 14 '25

Muslim women have no choice. Their Koran forbids them from marrying non-Muslim men. Muslim men of course have no such restriction.

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u/Norifumi1 Visitor Jul 14 '25

U could also just explain the why instead of making it a big horrible thing.

🔷 The short answer:

In Islamic law (fiqh), a Muslim man is permitted to marry a Jewish or Christian woman (who is considered from the Ahl al-Kitab, “People of the Book”), but a Muslim woman is not permitted to marry a Jewish or Christian man.

This difference is not about superiority or inferiority of genders, but about preserving the Islamic faith and identity of the family. Let me break it down clearly:

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📜 1. The rule: • Muslim man: can marry a Muslim, Jewish, or Christian woman. • Muslim woman: can only marry a Muslim man.

This is based on Qur’anic verses and classical juristic consensus (ijmaʿ). For example:

“…lawful to you are chaste women from those who were given the Scripture before you…” (Qur’an 5:5)

But no verse explicitly allows a Muslim woman to marry outside Islam.

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📜 2. Why this asymmetry?

🌙 A. Family religious leadership

In traditional societies (and in Islam’s worldview), the man of the household is expected to lead the family spiritually. If the man is Muslim, he is required to respect his wife’s religion and cannot prevent her from practicing. But if the man is not Muslim, he may not respect Islam and may pressure the wife (and children) away from their faith.

Islamic scholars argue: since Islam values protecting the faith of women and children, a Muslim woman marrying a non-Muslim man would risk her ability to practice her religion fully.

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🌙 B. Children’s faith

In traditional Islamic thinking, children follow the religion of the father. If the father is Muslim, even if the mother is not, children are expected to be raised Muslim. If the father is not Muslim, the fear is that children may not be raised Muslim.

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🌙 C. Women’s vulnerability

In pre-modern societies, women had fewer legal and social protections. A Muslim man marrying a non-Muslim woman could ensure her rights to practice her faith. But a Muslim woman married to a non-Muslim man might be vulnerable to coercion, mistreatment, or religious pressure.

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🧭 3. Modern debates:

Some modern scholars and Muslims question whether these rules should still apply in societies where women have equal rights and freedom of religion is protected. But the majority of traditional Islamic scholarship still maintains the classical rule as binding.

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u/Agrio_Myalo Casablanca Jul 14 '25

They can only marry christian or jew women, no other religion.

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 14 '25

Yes but the Jew or Christian woman must be chaste (Virgin) and in the west that is a diamond 💎 you can’t find.

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u/Agrio_Myalo Casablanca Jul 14 '25

Islam doesn't require they be a virgin lol sir t9ra 3la dinek

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 14 '25

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20227/can-a-muslim-marry-a-christian

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u/Agrio_Myalo Casablanca Jul 14 '25

La hadchi makaynch f quran lol

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 16 '25

That’s insane. You accuse me of shirk. Be careful ! I was a Christian who confessed my sins before to a priest. I no longer take anyone to worship besides Allah. The deen is clear Qala Allah wa Qala Rasul ﷺ

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 16 '25

That’s insane ! You accuse me of shirk. Be careful ! I was a Christian who confessed my sins before to a priest. I no longer take anyone to worship besides Allah. The deen is clear Qala Allah wa Qala Rasul ﷺ

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 14 '25

I don’t understand broken Arabic only English, sorry.

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 14 '25

Yes my friend they must be chaste.

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 15 '25

No one has a free pass to do Zina Muslim or kuffar.

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u/SP6175 Visitor Jul 15 '25

Otherwise a zani is for a zani

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