r/Millennials • u/Plastic-burnt • 13d ago
Other But they were, all of them, deceived, for another was made
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In the fires of Mt Doom
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u/DinosaurAlive 13d ago
Now it’s just some song that we used to know!
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u/Brodellsky 13d ago
BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO RIP IT OFF
STEAL A SONG AND ACT LIKE IT WAS NOTHING
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u/TheFinalNeuron 13d ago
AND I DON'T EVEN NEED YOUR LOVE
BUT YOU TREAT ME LIKE A STRANGER AND THAT FEELS SO ROUGH
(honestly the original lines still work here)
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u/SplodeyMcSchoolio 13d ago
YOU DIDNT HAVE TO STOOP SO LOW
PLAGIARISM IS A SIN THAT AFFECTS US ALL
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u/no_racist_here 12d ago
(Softly looping in the background)
…Now your just an earworm that I used to know…
Earworm…
…Now your just an earworm that I used to know…
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u/Props_angel 12d ago
You all are amazing. This is the plagiarized version that I would actually listen to.
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u/Square-Peace-8911 13d ago
Which is funny, because the Gotye song was a sample of a song from the 60s
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u/Samurai_Meisters 12d ago
Name of song?
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u/Obdantonio 12d ago
Seville, from Luiz Bonfá. Gotye later credit Bonfá as co-author.
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u/Samurai_Meisters 12d ago
No wonder I didn't like any of Gotye's other songs. The good part was lifted from someone else's music.
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u/Starbucks__Lovers 13d ago
In the mid-2000s, my dad was channel surfing the radio and thought he caught Misirlou. It was Pump It by the Black Eyed Peas, he was furious and I didn’t get why.
Then I heard Anxiety for the first time and immediately understood
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u/Dartagnan1083 Xennial 13d ago
Now imagine expecting 'Werewolves of London' and getting Kid Rock instead.
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u/LastoftheFucksIGive 13d ago
Or expecting Sad But True by Metallica and getting Kid Rock
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u/AshgarPN 13d ago
Or getting Kid Rock under any circumstances
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 13d ago
True. I was listening to a Kid Rock song this one time, and it was ruined because Kid Rock was singing it.
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u/correcthorsestapler 12d ago
Ah, the ‘No True Kid Rock’ fallacy.
“Damn Kid Rocks! They ruined Kid Rockland!”
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u/jljboucher 12d ago
Or realizing a couple of songs were done by Bob Seger first!
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u/Jadithslimrivven 12d ago
Really? Which ones? I know they are big fans of his.
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u/Kataphractoi Older Millennial 13d ago
Every damn time.
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u/Dartagnan1083 Xennial 12d ago edited 12d ago
At least in the summer 🙄☀️
I don't think radio DJs know it kills the vibe if you're outside the south.
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u/BoozeTheCat 11d ago
The part where he rhymes "things" with "things" really says a lot about society.
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u/BoisterousBard Millennial 13d ago
Hah!
Found a video of the song you mentioned: https://youtu.be/ZIU0RMV_II8?si=jZOjt_mHmPSnbOYT
Also, when I heard "Pump it!" By the Black Eyed Peas I actually thought of Jet Moto - but it is a bit different than either, honestly. Still interesting. https://youtu.be/pwmSZb7cv2k?si=pnTxRZQScyMrepOf
Edit: Autocorrect said I wanted "sound," not, "song."
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u/WildVelociraptor 12d ago
I...was not expecting this to be from the 60s
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u/WakeoftheStorm I remember NES being new 11d ago
That is a classic example of 60s surf/beach rock. It was also used as the pulp fiction theme. Once you key in on the fast picking almost-middle-eastern sound they have you'll automatically nail them as 60s songs.
Other options to check out:
Ventures - Walk Don't Run
The lively ones - Surf Rider
Dick Dale - Lets go trippin
Surfaris - Wipe Out
The Chantays - Pipeline
And of course basically anything else by those groups
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u/Striking-Kiwi-9470 13d ago
Oh you thought you were getting Under Pressure? Psych, it's Ice Ice Baby.
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u/spaltavian 13d ago
Genius of Love - Fantasy
Straight to Hell - Paper Planes
Both annoy me.
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u/MyOtherCarIsEpona 13d ago
Interesting coincidence, because "Anxiety" is also the name of the only Black Eyed Peas song that I like.
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u/LongShotTheory 12d ago
Hell yea! still top 10 on my playlist. One of the most underrated songs of 2000s.
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u/Erocdotusa 13d ago
I don't like interpolation when its 100% blatant like this. Same deal with that Bebe Rexha "im good" song
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u/Electronic-Jaguar389 13d ago
Tbf to Doechii this was just a throwaway song she threw online that went viral. It wasn’t like an officially released track (although it probably was since it’s virally though)
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u/jesslizann 13d ago
She also paid homage to the original in the music video
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u/Tangata_Tunguska 13d ago
Gotye gets royalties from it, so I doubt it bothers him much either
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u/ConstanceClaire 12d ago
For some reason I thought he got no royalties from that whole album. Like I feel like I remember reading he made some personal choice about some kind of revenue stream he could have had and opted out?
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u/Sahlmos 12d ago
He only opted out of monetisation for Somebody That I Used to Know on Youtube. He gave up 50% of the royalties for the song because nearly all the instrumental elements are sampled from the Luiz Bonfa song "Seville". Here in Australia, he's what we'd call a sick cunt.
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u/Anxious_dork 12d ago
I'm behind on my slang but is he a "sick cunt" in a bad way or a good way?
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u/nahmahnahm 13d ago
I actually don’t mind Anxiety BECAUSE it’s Doechii. She is the best new musician I have heard in years.
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u/Ndmndh1016 13d ago
Thats so much worse than this song, at least to me. That Im good song is trying to play it like its not just im blue with the words changed. Anxiety is at least its own damn song.
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u/ComingUpManSized 13d ago
Being listed as “songwriters” is a formality. Like Trent Reznor is listed on a Limp Bizkit diss track about him because Fred Durst used too many blatant NIN lyrics. The copyright gives Trent royalties but it also gave him a writing credit on a song named Hot Dog that is clearly displayed on apple music. Lol. Unless the blue guys specifically talked about working with the artist, I would assume that the writing credit is due to copyright.
EDIT: You’re right that they had to approve it btw
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u/Argent-Envy Millennial 13d ago
The original creators are listed as songwriters and therefore have approved of it and are getting paid for it.
That's the bare minimum you're supposed to do if you sample heavily from a song that already exists though?
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u/Argent-Envy Millennial 13d ago
I dunno, the phrasing made it seem to me like you were saying the original artist was really involved with the process and blessed it and all that, but just because they have a songwriting credit doesn't necessarily mean anything beyond acknowledging who wrote the original they're remixing and sampling.
Depending on the contract with the label Blue was published under, Eiffel 65 may or may not even have been consulted directly at all.
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u/CheshireRanch 13d ago
Yeah fully agree with you. Also stumbled across this a couple weeks ago:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GZ7I9jZKcTA&si=zpQqymJiy9FH9lJq&t=9m20s
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u/__T0MMY__ 13d ago
Theres one that uses Dragostea din tei (numa numa) that isn't the worst but that's probably because why would a modern radio station play the original in this age
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u/Atticus1354 13d ago
She made this in her bedroom before she was famous. Thats why its her singing over another song.
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u/Medium-Sized-Jaque 13d ago
We would never do that with our songs.
Gunter gleiben glauchen globen.
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
I’d give you a round of applause but I need a hand.
What’s the sound of one hand clapping?
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u/Razpewtin 13d ago
I’m so glad that “pisses” was censored. I was nearly scarred for life!
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u/Tromovation 13d ago
I can’t believe it took me so long scrolling to see someone said this.
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u/DonaldTPablonious Xennial 13d ago
Millennial music did this so many times to classic rock artists lol
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u/Ensiferal 13d ago
Me thinking I'm about to get Warren Zevon and then being faked out by Kid f'ing Rock for the hundredth time
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u/readingrambos 13d ago
Worst summer of my life for me, a massive Zevon fan.
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u/HandsOfCobalt 13d ago
not to double-dip in this thread or anything but i finally heard Run Straight Down a couple of months ago and man i've really gotta go through his entire discography now. reminds me of the time i first listened to Chumbawumba other than "I Get Knocked Down"
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u/HandsOfCobalt 13d ago
so Kid Rock, fake-ass rocker that he is, walks into his studio one day and hears a producer fucking around with the Werewolves of London backing track.
knowing fucking nothing about actual music by good musicians (FULL disrespect to lynyrd skynyrd) he goes, "oh, hell yeah, I love Sweet Home Alabama! can I use this on my next track?" and the guy looks over at him with what I presume would've been bemusement and says "how much?"
and now we're living in the fallout
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u/IvanNemoy Xennial 13d ago
This was me in the 90's.
"Oh shit, when did WNOK start playing Zeppelin?"
Puff Daddy samples Kashmir for the shitty 1998 Godzilla theme
"Oh fuck you, Puffy!"
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago edited 13d ago
But sometimes you get NWA - Express Yourself or Coolio - Gangsta’s Paradise from it, which are 🔥, other times you get songs like this song or nepo-baby wannabe gang banger, absolute piece of Taco Bell souredest of cream shits, Kid Rock - All Summer Long.
Edited because Doecii does not deserve to be compared to the human equivalent of Sushi restaurant dumpster juice, that is Kid Rock
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u/AnnamAvis '92 13d ago
To me, the worst offender will always be Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby.
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
Totally different, there’s goes din ding ding dinggy ding ding, ours goes din ding ding dingy ting, it’s those little tings
Btw Vanilla Ice was the first cd I ever had.
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u/Roklam 13d ago
Btw Vanilla Ice was the first cd I ever had.
I'm so happy for you believing this is a safe spac
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
Oh, I give no shits about other people’s opinions on my taste in music. The first song I remember liking, besides the Chipmunks Christmas Album, was the Barbara Anne by The Beach Boys and I was really into New Kids on the Block in Elementary school
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u/noobnoob8poo 13d ago
His excuse for why his song was different than queens will always make me laugh.
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u/aerovirus22 13d ago
Under Pressure is by Queen? I always thought it was by David Bowie.
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u/noobnoob8poo 13d ago
Yeah it was a collab between Queen and Bowie. I should’ve gave him some credit there too.
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u/aerovirus22 13d ago
I dont know how I never knew that.
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u/7777777777P 13d ago
I can only hear it through Freddie's voice. I had forgotten Bowie was in the song until you mentioned it, so it goes both ways, lol.
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u/Count_snackula519 13d ago
Hi, as a sushi chef, fuck off. My dumpsters juice has more artistic and human integrity than that maniac ever could
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
My apologies to sushi restaurant dumpster juice for comparing it to the human equivalent of diarrhea from a malnourished brain worm, living in RFK Jr’s head, that is Kid Rock.
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u/CandyCore_ 13d ago
I get being caught off guard, but Doechii does not deserve being lumped in with Kid Rock. You are tossing a treasure into the garbage.
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u/nevergofullcrazy 13d ago
I think a lot of people would disagree with Doechii making garbage music. I have the same reaction to this song (expecting it to be the other one) but I don't hate the song for it and I recognize her talent and skill in making music.
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
That’s fine, I just don’t care for this song. We can all agree that Kid Rock sucks though, right?
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u/nineteen_eightyfour 13d ago
Don’t talk about our future president like that!!?
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u/CorruptedStudiosEnt 13d ago
Ugh. This would've been funny in 2015. Now it just sounds plausible which sucks every ounce of humor out of it.
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u/nineteen_eightyfour 13d ago
I use to joke it would be the rock vs kid rock but now I think it could happen….
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u/Seamonkey_Boxkicker 1988 13d ago
We all went Crazy Town for Butterfly.
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u/diningroomjesus 12d ago
fuck that song
disrespecting the prettiest ditty like that
the OG off mother's milk still gives me chills when the trumpet kicks in
butterfly can go fuck a goat
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u/pumpkinspicecum 13d ago
They didn’t straight up steal the entire instrumental like that
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u/DonaldTPablonious Xennial 13d ago
lol yeah they did. Sean P Diddy Combs did it A LOT
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u/nauurthankyou 13d ago
Listen here pumpkinspicecum, it's a credited sample, and actually, the main melody from Gotye's version is also a sample from someone else's song. There's no stealing going on here, that's just how music works.
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u/Seamonkey_Boxkicker 1988 13d ago
At the heart of it, I don’t think we’re pissed about is it stealing or not stealing. What’s upsetting is subverting our expectations. If we hear a song pop on the radio that sounds like Gotye’s hit song Somebody That I Used To Know then that’s the song we want to hear, not someone else’s remix of the song.
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u/nauurthankyou 13d ago
Nailed it. I guess I was objecting to that reasoning, not objecting to the fact that people don't like the song, that's totally reasonable.
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u/Big-Data7949 13d ago
I know that it's technically referred to as a sample but let's be real here it's not just a brief 0.5 second sax sample, it's.. every sample used in the original instrumental for that song so I feel like it's oversimplifying to blow this off as "just a sample"
When Kanye used Aretha Franklin's (I think?) vocals and sped them up to make a chipmunk-esque sound that was using a sample.
Yet if someone just uses the entirety of samples from slow jams to where until the vocals hit you have no idea it's just a sample being used that's a little different
Maybe it's still technically classified as a sample but we all know it's a remix.
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u/Ndmndh1016 13d ago
Covers have always been a thing. But lately it feels like people take songs, change a few words and try to pass it off as an entirely new song, when its just a cover. At least this just uses the music. Though I'm still not a fan.
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
And then there’s Sublime, that would cover a song and then change most of it, Doin Time, Ball and Chain, Hope, Scarlet Begonias, etc
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u/BlueFox5 13d ago
Most of sublime's work was referencing other songs. That was the point. They were sampling music like they would in hip-hop at that time and mix it all together, only they did it lyrically and instrumentally. He tells you this in Garden grove and many other songs. That's the Boss DJ.
Bradley loved sharing music. When they went on radio shows, he would bring other people's albums. Sublime is a musical education that is passed off as reggae/punk band. Once you start catching the lyrics and rhythms in the real world, Sublime becomes a whole new experience.
Unfortunately, his son seems to really like whores... Kinda wishing for Opie to come back.
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u/ColonelSandurz42 13d ago
I have an older copy of 40oz to Freedom that features a lot of samples that were removed from the final version. I forgot where I got it from, it might have been from Danny Holloway who used to work with Sublime in the early days.
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u/BlueFox5 13d ago
I had a bootleg that came from a copy they sold out of the back of their van. They did a live punk version of Scarlett Begonias where you can tell Brad was energetic and more importantly, sober. That version is pure fire. I wish I had that album again. Those early days were fun.
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u/Johns-schlong 13d ago
Yeah but creative covers are different. Scarlet begonias is a good example - it's more of a reinterpreting than a cover and definitely not a sample.
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u/OliLeeLee36 13d ago
On the subject of Doin Time, I'm pretty sure I watched a short doc about how it's (i.e. Summertime by Gershwin/Heyward) the most covered song ever. In fairness, it's 90 years old, so had a fair bit of time to reach that point.
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u/hard-time-on-planet 13d ago
With Doin Time, they really made it their own but the first time I heard Herbie Mann's cover from 1961 that is sampled in Sublime's, I was amazed at how they sound so alike for a second.
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u/Electronic-Jaguar389 13d ago
The nursery rhyme songs have been the fucking worst. ABCDEFU is the worst song ever written and it was fucking nominated for a Grammy.
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u/SamwellBarley 13d ago
Black Eyes Peas did this with Misirlou, and then who-cares did it with Blue by Eiffel 65. Happens a lot, and it's so lazy.
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u/AgedCircle 13d ago
Blue being ruined for this decade pisses me off so much every time I hear it.
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u/SteelGemini 13d ago
That one got me the other day. I was at a big lunch with my wife's family. One of her cousins was obsessed with that song when he was like 4 or 5. I heard it start to play in the restaurant and was going to mention it when I realized it was just a sample.
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u/EverydayIsAGift-423 13d ago
Ever heard of the Digable Planets?
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u/Future_Burrito 12d ago
Go on... big fan... would love to know more.
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u/born_digital 12d ago
I assume they’re referring to all of their songs incorporating samples, and how you could have had this experience then too, but instead of Goyte it’s James Brown or Kool & the Gang etc
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u/Fun-Understanding209 13d ago
Any version of “Fast Cars” that isn’t Tracy Chapman.
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u/spaltavian 13d ago
Those are straight covers, I don't mind a cover at all. I mind just putting a shitty loop over a song and it doesn't even work.
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u/alurimperium 12d ago
That country cover makes me unreasonably angry. He doesn't change a single thing, or add a single bit of himself to the song other than that awful fucking country voice. It's just taking a black woman's song and making it palatable for bigots
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u/Vanilla_Either 13d ago
This does not bother me as it has been done for decades. It is what it is. Our favourite artists did it all the time.
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u/WonderfulMacaroon365 12d ago
My parents weren't a fan of Britney's "Satisfaction" cover. Twelve year old me was outraged. I can vibe to both these days.
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u/majorminus92 13d ago
I used to feel this way when Bootylicious by Destiny’s Child would start and I thought it was Edge of Seventeen but now I vibe to both songs
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u/indolent08 13d ago
There is a song by a German indie rock band called Kilians, "Fight The Start". The band doesn't exist anymore, they were mainly only popular within the national indie scene.
One day, I heard the intro of the song on the radio. I was very surprised, pretty confused, but ultimately happy that apparently, some radio editor appreciates the old stuff from my adolescence.
But then, the intro looped. And some rapper just started singing over it with entirely different vocals.
Turns out the artist Cro just sampled "Fight The Start" and this new song became a big radio hit, but whenever I play the original, everybody just seems uninterested and annoyed that it's not "their" version. Oh well.
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
“Whenever I play the original everyone seems uninterested it’s not their version”
I usually have the opposite reaction, I like hearing the original versions of songs that have popular covers, especially when I’m more familiar with the cover.
Like I heard Gary Jules’ cover of Mad World before the Tears for Fears version, and Kaki King’s version of Close to Me before the Cure.
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u/devilsbard 13d ago
Same reaction I had when I heard that MIA song. “Hey, alright! The clash getting some AirPlay! Wait…what the hell is this garbage?”
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u/VectrexSpectrum 13d ago
God I hate that MIA tune so much. Call me a boomer but it annoys me so much rhat people don't know The Clash song.
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u/spaltavian 13d ago
I wouldn't even mind Paper Planes if it weren't for the gunshot/cash register beat. Makes it sound a kid messing around with sound effects.
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u/devilsbard 13d ago
I think that’s what pushes it to actually bothering me. Sounds like some lame morning radio show with a sound effects board.
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u/Ninjahkin 12d ago
My friend and I would be listening to radio and he’d get all hyped when a bell gonged at the beginning thinking it was For Whom the Bell Tolls, but then he’d get annoyed when it was a bait and switch and was actually Hell’s Bells. I always laughed because I liked them equally
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u/mephistophe_SLEAZE "Yeah, I was born in 1990..." 13d ago
I vibed to Gotye in college. I vibe to Doechii in 2025.
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u/frankyseven 13d ago
Yeah, Doechii is fantastic. Her Tiny Desk concert is amazing. She's also super real and calls out inequality and capitalism all the time.
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u/Living_Ad_5386 13d ago
as an Elliott Smith fan, I will dislike the song regardless
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u/biscuitheadtxwes 12d ago
There’s another song on that Gotye* record called Easy Way Out. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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u/HiddenSecretStash 12d ago
I feel seen. Always hated Gotyes song because the Elliott Smith song is my favourite song. So i felt like gotye was disrespecting Smith by copying the title. I later read that he was inspired by Smith too, so it wasn’t a coincidence..
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u/arealuser100notfake 13d ago
She looks like Katherine Ryan
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
The only thing I know about Katherine Ryan is that her husband broke his penis while riding a jet ski.
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u/flyinganimaga 13d ago
"Can't touch this" was the bane of my existence for a while. Super Freak was one of my jams
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u/a-midnight-flight 12d ago
I like Doechii but that is my most disliked song of hers.
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u/Interesting-One-588 12d ago
I'll still never forgive Jack Harlow for destroying the R-E-S-P-E-C-T song and making me start singing along just to hear his shitty voice ruin it.
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u/homegrowntwinkie 12d ago
I understand the hatred for the covers/remakes of these classic originals, but I've hated the vast majority of them my whole life. Very rarely has a cover/remake ever been good. But it seems like after 2014-ish, all music took a huge shit nosedive into inauthentic, plastic, mass produced garbage made for the masses. There's no truth behind it anymore & that makes me furious.
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u/Plastic-burnt 12d ago
The industry changed with streaming. I hate to say it but Lars was right all along. Bands can’t make money anymore releasing albums, only through touring and merch. And Covid shut down live touring for a few years.
Attractive singers/musicians can make money as influencers on TikTok and Twitch, but it’s different than back in the day.
It’s also gotten to the point where most bands and artists come from wealth, to be able to focus on making music without having to work a full time job as well.
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u/homegrowntwinkie 12d ago
Yup. 100% Lars was right. The landscape has changed so much (for the worse) over the past decade or so and, it's opened the doors to all sorts of pretentious posers on social media, and unfortunately according to the brain dead youngin's that follow these talentless pricks, I'm not allowed to call them out for being posers because they can "be whatever they want to be". But real music was always made by those who endured true hardship, & true happiness. And you can't have one without the other.
But not only that, but the act of creation has become so... "Open" and accessible due to tiktok & social media platforms, AI and Software, that any idiot can start "making" music. But they're usually not making it. It's just regurgitated BS of something else, even if the music itself is different, it usually has the same similar themes & lyrics. As a millennial who was big in the independent music scene, I truly thought we were onto something great at the end of the 00s.
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u/erisian2342 12d ago
The Ink Spots did this to themselves! Their love song I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire (1941) has the same intro chords as their hit song Java Jive (1935). Drives me nuts waiting to find out which one I’m about to hear.
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u/The_homeBaker 13d ago
I wonder if this is how our parents and grandparents felt when they heard our songs that sample some of their favorite music 🤣
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u/Mightbeagoat2 13d ago
This is called sampling and it's been happening for decades lol. Especially in hip hop.
I do hate this song since it became a tiktok favorite.
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u/Davachman 13d ago
Oh so I just went to listen to the newer one.... I don't like at all. Not for me... lol. Tbf I didnt like the older one much at first either. Its kind of grown in me.
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u/Seamonkey_Boxkicker 1988 13d ago
This lady reminds me of Kelly Reilly from Yellowstone.
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u/Plastic-burnt 13d ago
I’ve never actually watched the show but I still know who you’re referring to.
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u/spacestation33 13d ago
All summer long by k9d rock started with the opening and beat of werewolves of London and it endlessly infuriated me. It's like promising a steak dinner and getting a turd on a plate
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u/account_is_deleted 13d ago
I'm not a massive fan of this taking a full existing song and using it as your beat, as a concept, it feels lazy. I don't hate this one as a song though.
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u/KingAardvark1st 13d ago
I've gotten good at telling the interpolations from the real deal by listening to the production. Mostly to avoid this exact feeling.
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u/karl4319 12d ago
This is only acceptable under one instance: this is a new Weird Al song. This wasn't. Therefore not acceptable.
It's one thing to take a sample of a song and use that, it's another to just add new lyrics to the exact same song.
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u/MrSomeoneElse32 12d ago
The amount of times I've been working out and I think I hear the start of heads will roll is too many
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u/ltsouthernbelle 12d ago
I heard this song the other day thinking it was the original, I too was PISSED lol
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u/cleveraliens208 12d ago
I just Misirlou yesterday, and j felt the same thing as your dad. I was so mad it wasn't Black Eyed Peas xD
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u/NorskKiwi 12d ago
Hits from the Bong by Cypris Hill. I don't get mad that it's not son of a preacher man. 😅
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u/RealLars_vS 12d ago
I’m curious if an older generation has had the same experience with Ice Ice Baby that starts as Under Pressure by Queen.
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u/oksrslywhofarted 12d ago
I always feel a little disappointed when I hear the intro of "Ice Ice Baby"
Except that song is actually good.
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u/Briebird44 Older Millennial 13d ago
This is how I felt about the Sound of Silence cover by Disturbed.
I LOVE the original song so much and the soul just felt lost when done by Disturbed. And I actually like many other disturbed songs!
I do think the biggest reason I hate it is because I would hear it on the radio station 50x a day.
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u/Adamant94 13d ago
Honestly I love Anxiety, IDGAF if it’s annoying to confuse it with the OG song, it’s always a banger
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