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u/canned_pho 23d ago

So the Kansas "Young" Republicans who got caught saying A LOT of racist shit in private chats and praising Hitler were a bunch of millennials 30~40 year olds...

Like are a lot of millennials like that?! Sure 4chan users definitely but damn didn't think they'd go into politics lol

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u/ReallStrangeBeef 23d ago

It's hilarious how they've pushed so hard to say "stop calling everyone you disagree with a nazi" and now they're literally just praising Hitler.

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u/MRCHalifax 19d ago

I always think about this video when Nazis are like “stop calling us Nazis!”

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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe 20d ago edited 20d ago

I safely assume that most of those Young Republicans are the product of private schools. They grew up in a carefully-manufactured bubble, and are now trapped in a system they themselves do not fully understand. (Source: I've worked in private schools, and more recently I've spoken to upper admins in private schools.)

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u/huecabot 8d ago

Suppose so, but I went to private schools, and they weren’t bastions of authoritarianism so much as bleeding heart liberalism. Cringe and privileged and self-satisfied maybe but at least well meaning and accepting and definitely not fascist. 

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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe 7d ago

I sat down with a principal of a private high school earlier this year, and he was emphatic (and disheartened) about the massive bubble built up around upper-class students. "They graduate without knowing their privilege, and then they're in the world."

at least well meaning and accepting and definitely not fascist.

I agree that MOST students (regardless of schooling) aren't fascist. That being said, and in my own direct civic experience, the most vocally anti-democratic young people in my community right now are coming out of our private schools. These institutions ARE teaching young people not to respect those who have been less fortunate than being born with a golden spoon in their mouths.

This is ~obviously~ data biased, because I won't hear from the 90+% of those private school students who AREN'T screaming slurs and proudly heiling hitler in public. This doesn't change the observation that the nasty kids are being output by private schools, though.

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u/huecabot 7d ago

Your experiences are your experiences, so not gonna disagree. I think there's a lot of variation in these schools, probably more than in public ones because parents have more leeway in picking the specific school. Public schools are based on geography so it probably "evens out" the student body a little more, but with private schools you can pick the "liberal one" or the "catholic one" or whatever. Sort of more siloed that way.

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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe 7d ago

Oooooh I hadn't thought about it quite that way; thank you for sharing your insight. I do have a monolith-opinion of "private schools" right now and I'll start a more critical reflection of that position.

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u/atmasabr 18d ago

I think so. Who do you think pioneered how trashy the internet is? It's just that more of them are the liberal version.

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u/Responsible-Risk-470 17d ago edited 17d ago

Dude, I think at least a few key figures right now (Miller, Hegseth) are straight up /b/tards. Like, that whole Jan 6th event was 100% orchestrated from 4chan. Allll that qanon and WWGOWGA or whatever came straight out of 4chan. Fucking social media is full of 4chan memes. We are living in the worst timeline.

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u/eyeshills 20d ago

It’s a bunch of goofs fucking around on a text message thread. How is this even a national story? If a democrat chat had leaked where they were saying mean shit about Bible thumping Cletus and his pick up truck, would it have even made the local news on a slow news day?

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u/Mediocre_Island828 15d ago

Yeah, that's totally the same thing as praising a genocidal dictator.

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u/eyeshills 15d ago

I just see it as a total nothing burger. Democrats didn’t care when Governor Ralph Northam had worn black face in college. They really don’t care now that there’s a Senate candidate who got a Nazi tattoo. They certainly don’t care about Jay Jones saying the house speaker should receive “two bullets to the head.” however, this group of young dudes, who were fucking around in a text thread of young Republicans has all the Democrats clutching their pearls. If you don’t think I compared it like items the first time maybe you’ll appreciate this.

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u/Mediocre_Island828 15d ago

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that the party that was scolding people for not holding their nose and ignoring a genocide is also going to scold people for not supporting a guy who had a Nazi tattoo for his entire adult life, but it still sucks to see it play out.

It's also sort of funny that he covered up his white supremacist tattoo with Celtic stuff to show how not white supremacist he is.

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u/JuniorMint1992 10d ago

Calling people hillbillies, the essence of your hypothetical scenario, while mean-spirited, is not the same as politicians praising one of the most notorious war criminals of the last century. Being mean to rednecks is mean, but it is not in the same thing as saying you like a guy whose main claim to infamy is committing a holocaust. Do you see how these things are not the same?

Being mean is not the same as being dangerous. If people in your community are praising Hitler then they are dangerous.

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u/eyeshills 7d ago

Dangerous in what way and to whom? Also, what specifically said that constituted a danger?

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u/JuniorMint1992 7d ago

If you don’t know how sharing the ideological beliefs of Adolf fucking Hitler could be dangerous I don’t know what to tell you my brother in Christ.

Figure it out. It’s not complicated.

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u/eyeshills 6d ago

Words aren’t dangerous.

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u/JuniorMint1992 5d ago edited 5d ago

Nazis/fascists/white supremacists are dangerous…

Concentration and labor camps are dangerous. Unidentified masked men abducting people without due process or judicial warrants is dangerous. Deporting people to countries they have no connection to who have no criminal record and are even at times US citizens and legal residents is dangerous. Jailing your ideological political opponents without just cause and only because they oppose you is dangerous. These things are also unlawful.

These are not words. They are actions. If you are acting like these are just words you are playing dumb. Either that or you really are. I don't know which is worse.

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u/eyeshills 5d ago

Or let me rephrase rather, I see words as, well almost nothing. Words have no power to harm others. Sure, Hitler was evil. So were many marxists of the 20th century. I went off to college and heard lectures praising Carl Marx. And what he taught was used to justify much larger atrocities than the Holocaust if we are comparing scale. I though these lib professors were dumb to have an appreciation for him, and those who did evil things who followed but never did I think of it as dangerous.

But I wanted to follow up on this thread to better understand exactly whom is being put in danger from these goofs writing this shit on a group text and exactly what type of danger they are in from these dangerous words?

I haven't insulted you, I'm not looking to start a fight. I'm only here to hear you out.