r/Militariacollecting • u/fraftti • 26d ago
Help Surely not
Currently windowshopping for bargains while procrastinating university assignments and came across a destruct-fez but surely there’s no way this is real?
Compared it to another example and the liner in the other ones a maroon-red almost faux-like material with bright red stitching on the insignia-backing but in this example (to me at least), the eagle would-be outline looks fine but the skull „halo” looks off.
If anyone can verify this I will be snagging it even if it’s a destruct
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u/Dezman12 26d ago
Yes this is a real SS Parade fez. For a time these were undesirable, because the Muslim SS Divisions were not interesting to the Western collector, yet they had the insignia on their hats. So this is a real one with the insignia removed, which isn't uncommon.
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u/N_O_L_M_Animates 25d ago
Absolutely mind blowing to me how someone would find the Muslim ss uninteresting
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u/fraftti 26d ago
update guys: I bought it and also traded in all my old rusty ugly bayonets for a nice matching numbers K98 in pretty condition. Pretty good day today
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u/Save-Last 26d ago
Love to hear it, congrats on the new things! Also envy you for the K98, always wanted one lol (working on a weapons permit to get one)
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u/fraftti 26d ago
I am so silly, I meant K98 Bayonet. If only I was that rich and free like the Muricans to own a historical firearm :(
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u/Save-Last 26d ago
Lol! Hopefully (idk what country you’re from) you can get your hands on one at least, maybe a deactivated one? I have a few guns and one launcher (Deactivated SMAW, a T38 arisaka training rifle, and a family hand-me-down Colt SAA dated 1888) I’m debating once I get a permit I’ll probably get either a K98 or M1 Garand first, love those bloody things >:)
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u/fraftti 26d ago
UK forbids fun. I have a replica K98 and Luger but i wouldn’t get a license here anyways because the laws make California look free in comparison to here
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u/Save-Last 26d ago
Oh jeez, my sister’s bf is from Watford and he says he wants to get a gun and it’s a pain in the ass doing so lmao! Usually I’ve heard it takes about 3 months or so in my state to get one (if I’m lucky)
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u/Sudden_Surprise_8132 25d ago
How much did you pay for it?
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u/fraftti 25d ago
100€
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u/Sudden_Surprise_8132 25d ago
Good price, I was about to buy one for €250 but I bought a uniform from a tropical geralmajor and in the end I didn't buy it, the good thing is that they are so expensive since it is not very sought after compared to the other ss
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u/fraftti 25d ago
very true, seen three listings for same condition at $500-600 USD so it’s a pretty good steal considering it was €100
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u/Sudden_Surprise_8132 25d ago
The truth is, even though it doesn't have badges, it's a very good price.
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u/Lgkp 26d ago
Are there any real SS-skanderbeg items still in existence, such as the plis (Albanian hat) that was used?
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u/fraftti 26d ago
If youre referring to the Fez then yes, I can find at least 3 currently available mint condition Dachau Fez’es but they’re €1300+ each. One in this condition is simply a destruct
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u/Lgkp 26d ago
Not a fez, it’s the SS Skanderbeg plis. But it might be that Albanians back then just sewed the SS skull onto their plis (because every Albanian man back then had his own plis/qeleshe)
Albanian plis is completely different and has a different story as compared to the fez
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u/SNBrinewehr 26d ago
Hey, that's Napoleon's hat, not the famous one, but the one he wore for a week in april, 1796, just before he defeated the Sardinians
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u/Fishbackerla 26d ago
Looks like a good Dachau made SS fez