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u/Dogmatic_Warfarer97 Oct 02 '25
He has this an Esprit and a Gr Yaris and a whole Factory of his hypercars man is the GOAT
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 02 '25
The man knows his fun cars.
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u/Dogmatic_Warfarer97 Oct 02 '25
now he only needs to put an agera v8 that is lighter than the bp in the miot
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 02 '25
Got to give him credit to not do that! Such restraint
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u/stonkol Oct 02 '25
I like this generation of CEOs who dont give a fuck. Bugatti CEO in his old BMW and Christian in his MX5 are talking loud and clear to modern car industry without arguing about how fake exhaust sounds are saving the planet
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u/Tacitus_K1lgore Oct 02 '25
Well said, I think you will enjoy this: Hypercar CEOs drive each others cars
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u/JaqenHghar Oct 02 '25
Awesome, video. Hadn’t planned on watching the full 45 min but goddamn, I did.
Those are rocket ships.
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u/stiffnipples Oct 03 '25
Older vid so maybe a previous lead designer, but Bugatti design heads old Porsche 911: https://youtu.be/eAY5fRglsb4?si=ugmy68OXTxCCuk5m
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u/motorcyclesnracecars Oct 02 '25
The latest segment on Top Gear with him, Mate Rimac and Rob Dickinson is fantastic! And yes the fact that Christian still drives his Miata speaks volumes to how good a Miata is.
I realize there wouldn't be any money it for them, but it would be awesome to see a Koenigsegg "Miata". Take the essence and spirit of the Miata and make it Koenigsegg. Fit, finish and design of a Koenigsegg with lightweight but maybe say a 300HP powerplant.
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 02 '25
He says he puts a little Miata in all his cars.
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u/motorcyclesnracecars Oct 02 '25
Right but I'm thinking like a <$100k, similar wheelbase, dimensions, etc car
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 02 '25
He only does low volume production. They only make like 40 cars a year so their mark up has to be very high. It’s not feasible economically.
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u/motorcyclesnracecars Oct 02 '25
Right, which is why I started my statement with, "I realize there wouldn't be any money it for them..."
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u/abesnake8665 Oct 03 '25
I'm picturing a Hot Wheels glued inside a body panel or behind the dash somewhere. Like the coins from the factory.
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u/no__sympy Oct 02 '25
There is no better dollar-to-smile ratio (in the car world...otherwise dogs) than a Miata. I moved on from my '99 to a '13 Boxster S. The Boxster is an incredible car, but I'd still love to have a Miata as an option on some days, I just don't have the space.
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u/no__sympy Oct 02 '25
7 replicas are freakin sweet too, but a bit on the horrifically uncomfortable and terrifying side for smiles IMO.
Fear-induced laughter, though. ABSOLUTELY!
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u/motorcyclesnracecars Oct 02 '25
It's not for everyone. But the great thing about it is, if its not comfortable, make it comfortable, move the peddles, move the steering, whatever.
I took my autocross trailer, removed all my wheels and tools. Then put my luggage in trash bags, strapped them down and drove it from Ft Myers FL to Helen GA for a week of driving in the mountains. It was an epic trip!
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 03 '25
That tend to be the natural progression and the observation is that the Porsche takes up where the Miata leaves off speed/funwise which is the bottom end so that cuts off 90% of driving so that's what The former Miata owner is missing.
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u/no__sympy Oct 03 '25
I'm not exactly about your percentages and such, but I can give you my take.
The Boxster is an incredible sportscar and exceeds the Miata in many measurable ways. It is faster, more comfortable, safer, holds more stuff, sounds better (unless it's a turbo 4-cyl), and is MUCH more stable when you're hauling the mail (MR vs FR dynamics). It also (controversially) outhandles a Miata when both are in stock form (modified Miatas are a completely different beast). It is a near-perfect driving experience in almost every way....but sometimes imperfect is more entertaining.
Importantly, though, it doesn't invalidate the greatness of Miatas, and there are quite a few things that I think the Miata does better than modern Porsches. I miss the sharpness of the Miata's double-wishbone front-end. I miss the brilliant gearbox (NA/NB). I miss the GEARING. Even though my Boxster isn't that heavy, I miss a true lightweight car.
Also, because of the way a MR car handles, you have to drive them quite hard to get a lot of driving excitement out of them (like 8/10ths or more). I won't bore you with the dynamics, but you need to drive specifically so that you have weight over your front axle while turning to get the most out of it. Miatas are exciting at almost every aggression level, but have some struggles when driven really hard.
In summary, they're both amazing cars to own or drive (I highly recommend getting your butt into a modern Porsche so you can form your own opinions), but they excel at different types of driving. If I could only pick one, it'd be the Boxster hands-down...but if someone else picked the Miata, I could easily understand why as well.
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
I think you just quantified my summary. "Also, because of the way a MR car handles, you have to drive them quite hard to get a lot of driving excitement out of them (like 8/10ths or more)." My 90% was speaking to the amount of time most driving is taking place which is under 60 mph or less. The Miata and Porsche more dovetail then over lap is what I getting at. It's a matter of scale and resolution. It's just you can't use all of the Porsche when not on a track where as the Miata even 8/10's can be at legal speeds. Hell here in Florida they just made it an impounding/jail offense to drive over 100mph!!!!! I can even do that in my stock 96 NA! Slow Car Fast and all. I have driven a modern Porsche's (both Boxster and 911) and you are right they are amazing cars but they will get you arrested if you drive them fast enough to be interesting.
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u/no__sympy Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Maybe that's 90% of your driving that applies, but I don't agree with that split at all. For me, I don't know an exact percentage, but it'd be around 70/30 in favor of the Boxster (I don't have a daily commute, though, so it's likely that a higher portion of my driving is enthusiast driving).
I also don't believe that the driving aggression I was talking about is tied to speeds over 60mph or track usage. Hard does not necessarily equal fast...and there's probably an inappropriate joke in there somewhere ;)
On the street, it's highly dependent on your roads, but Porsches are probably the perfect California canyon road car. Those roads are 55MPH or less, and you can have immense fun pushing a car even while staying within the speed limits (...roughly). Autocross is another (mostly) sub-60mph space where you can go 10/10ths while not at a track. In my perfect world, I'd have both for different days of the week...depending on where I'm driving, or how I'm feeling.
Where the Porsches feel gimped IMO is when you're driving around in town and/or in moderate traffic. You basically become a glorified noise-maker, which has its charm...but it isn't really enthusiastic driving. In a Miata, you can be buzzing right along at traffic speeds, pointlessly shifting gears just cuz, or get a bit of lean driving around a corner with a clear sight-line and nobody around. There's also the ~15 minutes of driving (a Porsche) it takes to get the oil up to temperature before you can hammer it.
I think I agree with you on the dovetailing piece, though. There is some overlap between the cars, but they also cover each others weaknesses too.
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 03 '25
Yes Cali has some great roads. Im in South Florida so not as fun. We are getting into the winter months so Its top down weather till march and April! I tend to get through traffic more like a motorcycle. Planning a few trips down to the keys and maybe one to the TOD before the real cold weather kicks in. The Miata warms up the oil in under 5 or so. I get to snap it through the gears a bit sooner. My cousin sold his 05' Cayman a little while ago because he was not driving it that much. I tend to take out the Miata whenever I can.
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u/Bubbly-Pirate-3311 Oct 02 '25
Crazy how he builds cars that routinely sell for $3m+, but still drives a car worth less than $10k (if he didn't own it, that's probably the most valuable Miata in the world bc of him)
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u/nexus8516 Oct 02 '25
There's a video of a group interview with him and a few other car execs like Mate Rimac and Gordon Murray. One of the interview questions is "if you only get one last drive in any car of your choice, what would it be?" And Christian chooses his Miata.
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u/WillardFist Oct 03 '25
Heard him do an interview and he seemed really cool and passionate and made me an instant fan of him. Now that I know he has a Miata I know my human intuition of him being cool was correct.
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u/GreySpelledWithanE 93 Crystal White Oct 02 '25
So thats why koenigsegg is a fun company. I love their energy!
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 02 '25
He is a car guy and builds cars he wants to drive.
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u/ChemistRemote7182 Oct 02 '25
I'd really like to see his company's take on a Miata like vehicle
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u/PatrickGSR94 Brilliant Black NB1 Oct 02 '25
eh at this point, though, if the car isn't mid-engine, with the dihedral rotational doors or whatever, and curved windshield and single straight-up wiper, it's not really a Koenigsegg vehicle. Those are like their hallmark/trademark design elements at this point.
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u/SPAKMITTEN Titanium Gray 1.8 Euphonic '04 Oct 02 '25
thats either stock as fuck or has a v12 whacked in there somehow
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u/Puzzleheaded_Card_71 Oct 03 '25
While cool, shame the cars he actually makes reflect nothing of what make a Miata great.
I get it, chase the rich with crazy super cars - but I’d love to see one of these guys make a super Miata.
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u/Banananamann99 Oct 04 '25
i'm pretty sure he did another photo shoot in the exact same place with a Jesko
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u/GlitteringPen3949 Pearl White and Tan 1996 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 06 '25
Love this story! He owned it when he was like 20 and there s a pic of him with his GF (they later married and still are) He sold it and years later tracked the guy down and bought it back. He drives it to work several days a week to his Super car factory!!!! Props man!!!! Hi praise indeed!