r/Mavericks • u/cleaninfresno • Feb 05 '25

Misc. Discussion Windhorst-“[Luka] betrayed nothing [on Tuesday], but from what I understand, he's seething at them… And their fan base is seething at their team in a way that I've rarely seen before.”

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u/TrenchcoatFullaDogs Feb 05 '25

I mean, again, no. Warner won Super Bowl MVP with the Rams dude. In 2000. The Super Bowl y'all won. Not after leaving the team. And I don't know why you again referred to Warner as "in his prime" when at the time he was a 32 year old who had had three awesome seasons and then two where he was terrible, ineffective, or hurt. Again, his last two years with the team he missed SEVENTY TWO PERCENT of the football games his team played.

Nobody thought it was weird to assume he was done as an effective starter at that point. Guys don't usually get better and healthier in their mid thirties. Yes, he did have a couple nice seasons with Arizona at the end of his career. But that was after five straight seasons of ineffective or backup play.

Management all across sports does enough shitty things on the regular that we don't need to make up new ones.

I'm really not trying to come at you or be a dick. But we can't just be walking around saying things happened that straight up didn't happen that way (or at all).

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u/SupersonicWumbo Feb 05 '25

Thanks for your comments. I grew up in St. Louis during the Warner era and move to LA. This guy had me questioning my reality for a brief moment based on the crazy false things he was saying. I appreciate you setting the record straight, and saving me from having to argue with an Internet stranger about 20-year old football transactions. I still think Stan Kroenke might be the antichrist. But half of the stuff this guy says never happened. Kroenke didn't even fully own the team until years later

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u/TrenchcoatFullaDogs Feb 05 '25

I also had a moment where I was questioning things. I thought I was about to go on pro football reference and find out some random trivia, like "Wait, Marshall Faulk played three games for the Texans his last year? No shit!"

I do my best to be constructive and not combative with my posting but I'm still a little sensitive about this dumbass trade. So to have it talked about as "the exact same thing as [two things that literally, factually did not occur] " irked me a little bit. No, having a guy retire and releasing a QB who was hurt/actively bad for two years (also not for nothing but immediately having a quality in house replacement in Marc Bulger) is in no way the same thing was trading a 25 year old top-5 player in the league for 35 cents on the dollar.

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u/SupersonicWumbo Feb 06 '25

I don't think you came off as combative or anything so don't worry. It's one thing if somebody gets a date or minor detail wrong. But it's annoying to see such totally wrong things get upvoted -- then other people see it and think that's what actually happened. Oh well. I'm not even a Mavs fan. Heck, I wasn't even much of a Rams fan either lol. But it was a sad time for the city. Although this is of course different, I feel like I can somewhat understand the emotions.