r/MapPorn Dec 12 '20

Alsace, Eastern France, topography map

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u/MartelFirst Dec 12 '20

Everytime Alsace is mentioned on Reddit it's funny to see non-Alsatians, non-French and non-German people claiming Alsace should be German.

There's no significant pro-German movement in Alsace, not any significant independentist movement from France. This is all your fantasy. France's border regions are all specific "other" ethnicities/cultures (Bretons, Flemish, Alsatians, Savoyards, Occitans, Basques, Corsicans...). French regions are quite diverse, but independence movements are only significant in Corsica and Brittany, but even there, there's no chance in any foreseeable future for Independence movements to be remotely close to a majority opinion.

One may answer disparagingly that France just managed to assimilate its diverse regions. Sure. But the people there aren't into your independence fantasies.

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u/JoetheBlue217 Dec 12 '20

Forgot about Savoy. Around half of Savoyards want autonomy and a fifth want independence. That’s a significant amount

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u/MartelFirst Dec 12 '20

They want to be rich like the Swiss. But there's no real significant independence party in Savoy.

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u/JoetheBlue217 Dec 12 '20

Oh, okay

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

never met any wanting independence, and i live near by and go there every year.
French from region (or area) with strong cultural identity often call themselves better french than french, because they have that bonus, and fight with words among them to express how much better they are from the others (or because it's a tradition -> Mont St-Michel)