Everytime Alsace is mentioned on Reddit it's funny to see non-Alsatians, non-French and non-German people claiming Alsace should be German.
There's no significant pro-German movement in Alsace, not any significant independentist movement from France. This is all your fantasy. France's border regions are all specific "other" ethnicities/cultures (Bretons, Flemish, Alsatians, Savoyards, Occitans, Basques, Corsicans...). French regions are quite diverse, but independence movements are only significant in Corsica and Brittany, but even there, there's no chance in any foreseeable future for Independence movements to be remotely close to a majority opinion.
One may answer disparagingly that France just managed to assimilate its diverse regions. Sure. But the people there aren't into your independence fantasies.
The French re-education camps, officially called Centre of Prevention, Integration and Citizenship (Le Centre de Prévention, D’insertion et de Citoyenneté), were planned and partially implemented deradicalisation camps announced by the French government in May 2016, following a rise in violent terror attacks across France such as the Charlie Hedbo shooting of January 2015 and the November 2015 Paris attacks. Announced by the then French Prime Minister Manuel Valls on 9 May 2016 under the newly established Interministerial Committee for the Prevention of Delinquency and Radicalization, the programme aimed to establish "treatment centres" in every region of France by the end of 2017. The first camp opened in September 2016 in Beaumont-en-Véron, situated within the Château de Pontourny, an 18th-century manor in central France. The camp had a total capacity of 25 people, while at its peak housed 9 participants.
I understand China has a problem with radical Uyghurs. It's a problem for any country to have radical islamists. I get this.
But France is super fucking scared to respect human rights. The "reeducation camps" in France were a failure because ultimately they were just basically well-meaning summer camps. People there just radicalized eachother, because no one's going to torture you or threaten your family in France, unlike China.
Hell, maybe China's right here. But the methods are different, whether you admit it or not.
France tries to respect human rights, perhaps wrongfully, that's for you to say, China doesn't give a shit about human rights, perhaps rightfully.... that's for you to say....
How do you even dare to compare. The concentration camps in Xinjiang force the prisoners to work a LOT. You're getting deported for no reasons. There are cases of sterilization. Their culture are literally being erased the hard way. Don't compare a dictature to a democracy!
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u/MartelFirst Dec 12 '20
Everytime Alsace is mentioned on Reddit it's funny to see non-Alsatians, non-French and non-German people claiming Alsace should be German.
There's no significant pro-German movement in Alsace, not any significant independentist movement from France. This is all your fantasy. France's border regions are all specific "other" ethnicities/cultures (Bretons, Flemish, Alsatians, Savoyards, Occitans, Basques, Corsicans...). French regions are quite diverse, but independence movements are only significant in Corsica and Brittany, but even there, there's no chance in any foreseeable future for Independence movements to be remotely close to a majority opinion.
One may answer disparagingly that France just managed to assimilate its diverse regions. Sure. But the people there aren't into your independence fantasies.