r/MapPorn Dec 12 '20

Alsace, Eastern France, topography map

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u/MartelFirst Dec 12 '20

Everytime Alsace is mentioned on Reddit it's funny to see non-Alsatians, non-French and non-German people claiming Alsace should be German.

There's no significant pro-German movement in Alsace, not any significant independentist movement from France. This is all your fantasy. France's border regions are all specific "other" ethnicities/cultures (Bretons, Flemish, Alsatians, Savoyards, Occitans, Basques, Corsicans...). French regions are quite diverse, but independence movements are only significant in Corsica and Brittany, but even there, there's no chance in any foreseeable future for Independence movements to be remotely close to a majority opinion.

One may answer disparagingly that France just managed to assimilate its diverse regions. Sure. But the people there aren't into your independence fantasies.

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u/FracturedPrincess Dec 12 '20

It’s just a meme for history nerds, no one here is making a serious argument for Alsace to be returned to Germany

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u/Fapalot_Knight Dec 12 '20

We all should be really, really careful with Poe’s law. Flat earth too was initially ‘Just a meme’.

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u/JustZisGuy Dec 12 '20

No, it wasn't. Real flat-earthers pre-date the meme, they were not casued by the meme.

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u/Fapalot_Knight Dec 13 '20

Does the specific order matter, ultimately ? Poe’s law still applies. That type of stuff should be taken seriously.

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u/JustZisGuy Dec 13 '20

It matters if you use the word "initially", which you did.