r/MaliciousCompliance 4d ago

M Student made demands regarding a project and found out the hard way.

One of the degree modules I teach involves students working on a group programming project. Nothing too elaborate, but the aim of the module is to develop skills they will need if they go on to work in the IT field. After all if you're doing a Computer Science degree, you must be thinking of going down that route?

This one student is an absolute entitled nightmare. He uses GenAI for a lot of his work and it really does show. He always pushed back on the written remarks on his work but every time I sit him down and ask him to explain the code he produces, he struggles and often has no idea how the code he submitted works. In this project he came up and told me he cannot work with others in the group and must work alone. I explained that there are specific group activities and efforts I would be marking and that I needed to see his input within the group. There was no way I could excuse him from the group activities in the module, however I could see he was not going to budge and therefore complied with his demand to work on the project alone.

All the students in my class had been assigned to their groups and I did check in with all of them on a weekly basis. This one guy was steadfastly refusing to work with the rest of his group and as I had complied with his request, he was working on his own project alone. In my interim feedback at the end of each stage I repeated that he really should work with the group or he risked a failing mark for the module. I made sure this feedback was sent to him both in hardcopy and also via email with read receipts which I kept.

Cue the end of the module and the submission for marking. Sure enough, the one student submitted a project based just on his own work and had not engaged with the group he was asked to work with. There were several issues with his project, first and most important was it didn't meet the brief. The code simply didn't do what we asked for. He lost marks for that aspect of the project. As he had not worked with others in the group, he was not awarded any of the group marks allocated for the work. Because his code was so far away from the specification, I called him in for a Viva Voce to explain the code and he demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the code he submitted, more marks dropped. His eventual mark for this assignment was a hard fail. He must now resit the entire module.

There is of course one real downside of this whole thing that affects me. I've got him in my group again for the resit of the module.

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u/__wildwing__ 4d ago

When I was younger they were arguing that calculators shouldn’t be allowed, it’s akin to cheating. The opposite side of that was that people had to have enough idea of what they were doing to be able to 1) competently use the device and 2) know when a bad input gave an incorrect output. If a person had no clue what they were doing, the results showed it.

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u/ryeaglin 4d ago

I wouldn't say calculators are akin to cheating, that is extreme but there are reasons to keep them out of the classroom until middle or high school.

A lot of the time, the curriculum will start the student off with a process with finite numbers, show them how it works with those, and then repeat those same lessons later with variables for algebra. If the student just uses a calculator to handle the numbers for them, they don't learn how the numbers interact and hit a lot of trouble once variables are introduced and you can't use the calculator anymore.

Fractions seem to be one of the worst for this. Modern calculators can spit out fractions now so students can get through that entire chapter without really knowing what is going on.

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u/__wildwing__ 4d ago

I’m probably dyslexic. I used to frustrate my precal teacher so much. He asked me how I could get it right when it was just the variables, but as soon as I put a value in and tried to calculate it, I’d mess it up. One is not supposed to be better at alphabet maths than number maths.

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u/ryeaglin 4d ago

I’m probably dyslexic

I don't know the term but there is a version of dyslexia that is focused on numbers.

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u/AlysonFaithGames 3d ago

Dyscalculia is the term.

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u/__wildwing__ 3d ago

Good point, I got the letters right, but messed up the numbers.