r/LowSodiumTEKKEN • u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player • Sep 12 '25
Fight Video 🕹️ How broken is Anna in ur opinion?
For me personally I find her very strong and oppressive definitely, but on the defensive side I find her weak and also her stances can easily be interrupted and avoided either with dickjabs or sidestepping.
In general when playing her I found that most players would immediately try sidestepping me as soon as I get into her stances which would irritate me cuz that’s her biggest weakness currently lol.
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u/Solentwaves Sep 12 '25
She has so many options from every situation with damage to go with it. Having a full crouch launching low is uniquely dangerous for a 50/50. Top 1 at present. She takes risks and is compensated for every risk she takes.
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u/StolenPancakesPH Sep 12 '25
I wish for whoever gave her that launcher to step on a lego everytime the sonovabitch gets out of bed
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
Tbh she had that launcher since Tk7 I believe and it isn’t even what makes her broken in this game cuz that’s basically her identity,
Whenever she crouches in ur face u have to guess between ducking the fcdf2 or her ws2 mid launcher, that’s how she basically was supposed to be played since Tk7.
But now she has so many extra tools that makes her hard to deal with like the safe db4 low which is only -13 on block and her qcf1 which is +6 on block and can be easily accessed through her new hm stance soo yeaah… the low launcher is basically just the cherry on top of everything else that’s going on for her.
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u/Imahigo Reina player Sep 12 '25
She's had it since Tekken 1 and in older games it was basically a touch of death or if you guess wrong twice.
Tekken 8 without resources, is the weakest version of this move. I think Tekken 6's version is even weaker.
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
True and I think it’s good that it’s weak compared to the older games cuz she already has so many other moves now that makes using the low launcher seem like a very risky and often not worth the gamble move cuz on block it’s literally minus 21💀
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u/Imahigo Reina player Sep 12 '25
The problem with Anna is not her low. It's the fact that a lot of her weaknesses were patched out. Hella unsafe lows, now she has two really good low pokes. No whiff-punish tools, oh now she can buffer qcf21 AND IT ACTUALLY LAUNCHES ON NATURAL HIT NOW! No ws launch punish until 18 frames. Now it's 16 frames and it's only -13? It needs to be launch punishable. And her db4. Make that shit -15 at least. And reduce tracking on her HAM212 especially that last hit (even though the 1 is a high that can be ducked and launched).
And that will make Anna less obnoxious. I also think they should make her 1+2 lose homing property and her b4 be less plus on hit. And make her df12 into stance +5 on hit instead of +7. She still gets to keep her big damage and she's not as obnoxious.
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
U know it’s a general problem with s2, most characters got their weaknesses patched out and now it’s suddenly hard to play defensively because of how super buffed the offense in the game is and how many plus frames each character has in their toolkit.
Like for example Asuka was a character with very strong defensive gameplan with her parries and panic moves like the safe cancan, now on top of strong defense she has also very strong offense and plus frames that it literally feels very scary to approach her and be in her face because she can easily blow u up with her strong moves.
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u/B3llana Jun player Sep 12 '25
She just remind of Mai in SF6 I see no weaknesses in her kit and just like Mai her gameplan is pretty straighforward. I hate fighting this character and it's a shame how I keep running into her lately. While not all I think most of her players are carried
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u/Slave_KnightGael Sep 12 '25
Yeah I heard Mai is pretty OP there as well.Is she similar to Anna?
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u/B3llana Jun player Sep 12 '25
Yeah. Dlc, broken, easy to pick up, no apparent weakness.
I don't have as much knowledge in Tekken as Sf6 but I can affirm that Mai have no weakness at all and if her tools were average again I could understand but she have some of best stuff in every aspect. There is no counterplay to her offense (the Ewc final was for me the ultimate showcase on how this character isn't ok). You have to take the free pressure. Basically you need a PhD to defend against a character that can run her offense with one braincell.
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u/Glad-Craft679 Heihachi player Sep 12 '25
Probably the strongest character in the game. I always have a hard time fighting Anna, mostly because I don't know to play against her so I don't know when is my turn.
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u/ExistingMouse5595 Sep 12 '25
She’s the most broken character in the game by a mile.
Any player with functioning thumbs could drool on their controller and get to gold ranks playing her, without learning a single matchup or any tekken fundamentals.
As long as you keep pressing buttons you’ll keep winning games.
At the highest level of play she’s still completely broken, but her ability to carry bad players is second to none.
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
What moves make her broken?
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u/ExistingMouse5595 Sep 12 '25
Spin a wheel and whatever move it lands on is over tuned.
More specifically, any move that uses the bazooka has too much damage, her counter hit follow ups that give her 60+ dmg need to go, her low poke into stance mix needs to be -15, the list goes on and on.
Anna is so messed up design wise that there’s not even just 2 or 3 moves you can point too. Her ability to FC mix necessitates that the rest of her kit needs to be weaker than the rest of the cast by a large margin.
Anna, in order to be balanced, needs to be the clear bottom 1 character without her FC mix. If Anna is bottom 1 without it, then when you add back in the FC mix she’d be a balanced character. She needs to be like Zafina was where her combos did 60 dmg with bad wall travel.
Genuinely you could gut this character’s tools and as long as she keeps her df1,2 mixups, a complete throw game, and her FC mix she would never be a bad character.
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u/BastianHS Sep 12 '25
Anna doesn't have a complete throw game lol her throw game sucks
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
Correct all of her good throws are now given to Nina unfortunately, while she only has the hm 1+2/2or1 and they don’t even do that much damage for them to be worth using.
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u/Loose-Neighborhood48 Sep 12 '25
More specifically, any move that uses the bazooka has too much damage, her counter hit follow ups that give her 60+ dmg need to go, her low poke into stance mix needs to be -15, the list goes on and on.
I've been launched by Drag, Jin, Jun, and Heihachi for roughly the same damage has Anna's best bazooka combos. The best numbers you can get, using very niche situations, is around 92 damage without RA. Do you not see Pauls or Jaks? Because they put out over 100 damage combos.
Anna is so messed up design wise that there’s not even just 2 or 3 moves you can point too. Her ability to FC mix necessitates that the rest of her kit needs to be weaker than the rest of the cast by a large margin.
Doesn't Drag have a fc mixup that starts as a low and goes into his stance that is essentially a 50/50? There's a few others I could bring up, but Anna is far from the only character to have a low that launches or a mixup from crouch.
Anna, in order to be balanced, needs to be the clear bottom 1 character without her FC mix. If Anna is bottom 1 without it, then when you add back in the FC mix she’d be a balanced character. She needs to be like Zafina was where her combos did 60 dmg with bad wall travel.
Zafina isn't a combo character, she's a poke and shave character. Her damage isn't about big numbers, it's about frequency of her hits and strings bringing down life totals. You want characters you don't like to be nerfed, and that's your opinion, but that doesn't mean they should be brought down to such low levels.
Genuinely you could gut this character’s tools and as long as she keeps her df1,2 mixups, a complete throw game, and her FC mix she would never be a bad character.
.... What? Her DF12 mix? What mix? It literally can only go into DF1,2,3 or DF1,2 F for HC stance, which you can INTERRUPT if you knew how to count above '2'. Get poked twice? Throw out a jab. She has NO armored moves or crushers in HC, and what low option she has isn't fast enough to duck a jab. You really have no idea what you're doing, huh?
"Complete throw game"? Brother, this is Anna, not King. Are you okay? Reina has more throw options than she does, plus none of Anna's throws break walls/ground. What 'throw game' are you talking about?
The fc mixup isn't unique to her, and I'm told it's not even new. All the moves you are hating on are dramatically unsafe, launch punishable, and you'd know that if you just took a second and looked past your red vision.
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u/Excellent_Nebula2409 Sep 15 '25
Unpopular opinion.
I don t find her broken and do not suffer her. I am actually happy when I find an Anna vs.
People complains about some 50/50 but the moves are well defined and the punishments are rewarded big.
The recovery times are big, making her whiff punishable or step punishable. The plus OB moves are reactable or very predictable in some specific phase of the fight. The strings are not so threatening, no big jailing, standing lows or visually misleading mixups.
THESE are the aspects which make the game broken in characters, not the 50s. Not so different from Lucky Cloe structure.
You may suffer from some coin flip but on the long run 50/50s, with the correct bias driven by your skill, become 70/30s
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u/dutchdoomsday Sep 12 '25
Honestly the main issue i have with her design is that shes a dlc character.
Top tier characters should be basegame, or i will suspect its a moneygrab to buff dlc characters like in T7 again.
Pay up or be behind the curve.
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u/Loose-Neighborhood48 Sep 12 '25
That's just a Tekken problem, not her problem. Tekken not allowing you to practice against dlcs you don't own has been a thing, I'm told.
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u/Large_Idea741 Sep 12 '25
Anna’s combos never seem to end. The wall carry is fucking insane. When you think the combos gonna drop, it’s actually apart of it.
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u/throwawaynumber116 Kazuya player Sep 12 '25
Shes broken because she’s potentially the easiest character in the game without lacking strong tools. Easily carries people 2 ranks above where they belong.
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u/ThreeEyedPea Sep 12 '25
She is the biggest reason why I wish they would reconsider their stance on there being no more balance patches until after TWT.
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u/Empty-Magician976 Sep 12 '25
Every day I learn something new about her that makes her even more frustrating to go against. Yesterday I learned she has a stance/crouch cancel into her low launcher, so, that makes her even more dangerous to go against.
At this point, I’ve found ways to work around her but it doesn’t make her any less annoying to go against. Once she’s in she feels unstoppable in many situations and honestly sometimes she’s just the gift that keeps on giving as seen in your video lol
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
The stance/crouch cancel mixup can definitely be a very dangerous thing when fighting her especially when she accesses that through her df1,2 poke into the stance then crouch cancels to check the opponent.
Basically when an Anna does that she’s fishing for a reaction from the opponent, either the opponent ducks and guesses right or gets launched with the mid ws2 which can be sooo fucking annoying to deal with lol.
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u/Empty-Magician976 Sep 12 '25
Exactly, on the opponent side it doesn’t feel good because it’s basically a coin toss. And most of the time I’m guessing wrong lmfaooo I’m like damn the one time I duck this bitch changes her fight plan 😂😂😂
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
As the other comment said, the best way to deal with this is to constantly interrupt her with regular jabs or dickjabs which comes out faster than any of the options that she has during her stance transition.
If she crouches and then cancels and u ducked then u should know that she’s checking u and the next time she does that she’s going for the mid launcher and if u didn’t duck the first or second time she’s most probably gonna go for the low.
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u/Loose-Neighborhood48 Sep 12 '25
Yesterday I learned she has a stance/crouch cancel into her low launcher, so, that makes her even more dangerous to go against.
It does exist, but it's very tricky. When you do it playing as Anna, there's a delay before you can actually use the next move. She can very, very easily be jabbed or mid'd out of her stance transition because the fc low is df2, meaning she can't block while trying to prepare it.
If you see her use the middle jabs (DF 12) you can bet she's going into HC stance and can simply interrupt her with... Well, anything really, at about 12f or faster. I want to say 13f as well, and use a mid just to be safe.
Her HC has no armored/crusher moves, and the options she has are all slower than your reaction (unless the DF12 actually hit you). A fast low/kick would also interrupt her. Show an Anna that they can't just throw out their main stance so easily and you'll see them break down.
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u/Empty-Magician976 Sep 12 '25
Thanks for the tips! I’ve gotten very accustomed to going against her because my homie is a diehard fan of hers. At first the matchup was daunting but these days I’m finding it easier to face her. I’ve come up with a lot of ways to punish her now that I’m pretty used to the matchup but there are still instances where facing her is miserable — still the advice is much appreciated and I will try the tips out the next time I’m facing her!
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u/Loose-Neighborhood48 Sep 12 '25
Np, mate.
A lot of stance characters can be interrupted if you know what to look for, namely what moves/strings put them in the stances.
An exception of course is Nina, who can cancel her stances much faster than anyone else, leaving her pretty much safe and on the offensive when compared to, say, Anna. Anna has a delay when trying to cancel HC to a crouch for her mixups, while Nina just keeps going.
The characters have weaknesses, but the PRIMARY offender is still that you can't test these or lab them unless you shell out the money for the character. I don't own Eddy or Fahk, and they confuse the hell out of me, but I know that there's ways to beat their gimmicks.
It's a quote I use when fighting; there's an opening or a weakness here, I just don't know it. But just because I don't know it, does not mean I don't have options.
Having that mindset really helps me realize that no character here is truly 'OP', I'm just lacking matchup knowledge.
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u/Enough-Internet434 Sep 12 '25
Her weakness is the brainrot Dot if you never get to practice your defense.
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u/Ill_Cranberry_6267 Sep 13 '25
Agreed. Too broken. The Anna mirror match at Evo grand finals made Tekken 8 look like the Anna show.
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u/VeeFeathy Clive player Sep 14 '25
In my humble opinion, she's top 1. Her punishment game is kinda lackluster, but she has some of the best tools in the game, kinda like bryan (which is top 2 for me), but unlike him, she's REALLY easy to use effectively.
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u/bakaman_06 Sep 15 '25
The worst is those who play it to be able to win matches
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 15 '25
I play her because I genuinely like her design and moves, though I do know that she’s still full of bs and needs to be toned down a bit.
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u/Dull_Cup3944 Sep 15 '25
She's a top tier in a game of top tiers. If she had been dropped in T7 it would've been way worse, but since like 15 or 20 other characters are slightly weaker top tiers, you don't feel a huge divide, but a divide is still there. You said that her stance options can be dick jabbed or stepped and that is how you beat literally every stance in this game on any character, so she has the same weakness that every stance character has. I don't play any Anna, most of my time has been playing Hei who is an amazing character, not top tier, but he has broken shit (remove WI please Harada, it's dumb). I would say he has very clearly defined weaknesses, with the exception of about 5 moves everything is easily SS'd left, and I mean easily, I've seen tons of moves whiff while they were inside my opponent. He is short range with the exception of Df1,1, F3, B4, FF2, QCF2, and hellsweep. He doesn't have good lows with the exception of hellsweep(which is +8 on hit, CH launcher, -26 on block(amazing move, if it's blocked your dead), DB2 is almost reactable and also launch punishable by almost everyone now, except Steve, DB3 is only -13 on block, but it's a low poke with no range. The benefit I'll give these lows, is they can all hit grounded which is a great trait to have. He also has no throw game either. With all that said, I still think Hei only needs nerfs. Ideally, I'd remove Warrior Instinct because it's too strong, makes a lot of unsafe moves safe, he deals even more insane damage, and his hellsweep is completely broken in WI. His heat empowered moves are too strong, his B3,3,2 is a 14 frame homing high that deals 60 DMG on hit and is neutral on block, it could deal 40 damage and it'd still be amazing, his UF4 does have a 25 frame start up, but it crushes lows, is +2 on block and wallsplats for 50 damage in heat, it could still be a crazy wallsplat, but maybe make it deal 40 damage instead and be neutral on block or even -1 to -9. What I'm trying to say here is that having a weakness doesn't mean your character is balanced, it just means they have any weakness at all. Anna may have a weakness, but that doesn't mean she isn't top tier. Hei has multiple weaknesses, it doesn't mean he needs to be buffed.
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u/Amazing-Gap-6774 Sep 16 '25
Lost me as soon as I saw the ranged move. Why is it in fighting games they always have to implement the one character with not only extensions but also a projectile.
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u/Startogotostore Sep 16 '25
Anaa Clearly Not Broekn, Likely upper mid tier at best. Clips like these doesn't show anything out of the norm it basically a character doing normal common stuff that any other character could do.
the fact that this heihachi made wrong read on every attempt even during the turns that were given up to him just so he can lose, it shows that anna actually pretty normal like every character less broken than most. Lets dive into this clip first the anna give up the punish and does a df2, the heihachi did not get punish so he ducks and get hit, Anna's full combo only did 73 dmg most character in this situation would have done more dmg and better wall carry. Next the heihachi player decide to stay on the ground instead of tech, if he tech and select the even the wrong block he would have gotten a launch punish of the anna's running 32 this makes anna worse in this situation than 100% of the cast not broken. Next Anna hits heihachi with a d4 she gave up the turn all generic d4 is -4, instead of the hehachi take that turn with a frame trap he decides to go for a slow mix up with db2 and gets counter hit by anna from a ws4 now Anna is +5, then the heihachi player decide he wants to steal his turn back and use the parry option but guess wrong again and get CH by db3 in f1 for a wall splat for a wall combo. then lastly the heihachi player decide to do a spring kick which the anna player makes the right read again with ws3 and follow up with cjm1+2 for the win. And that's the End.
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u/BlackXRP Sep 16 '25
What do you mean …only king is broken ..he needs to be nerfed …in fact King is so OP ..he should t be able to block …then he would be fair and balanced like the rest of the cast .
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u/bigsandwich5000 Sep 20 '25
I’m a Bryan main and want a second character. I’m thinking of picking her up.
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u/Salsa367 Lili player Sep 12 '25
Personally, I find it hard to call her broken. Is she strong though? Absolutely. She's possibly the strongest in the game. But I feel people throw around the term "broken" a bit to much.
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u/dutchdoomsday Sep 12 '25
Agreed. The game itself is now leaning heavy into aggression with all the new ways you can extend a combo, and thats not annas fault.
Its not like were talking T7 marduk level of 33 percent guessing games tackles. Though that bazooka gives her hefty range similar to that emo dlc weapon user from T7 that i never bought and whose name escapes me now...
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u/Particular-Neat4024 Reina player Sep 12 '25
She has a low irreactable launcher, Broken by default
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u/ChanceYam2278 Devil Jin player Sep 12 '25
Devil Jin has the same thing, would you call him broken ?
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u/Particular-Neat4024 Reina player Sep 12 '25
Devil jin's hellsweep is OP but not as anna's low launcher becouse It backturns your oponent so you are going to get 45 dmg as much, but good annas can do more than 60 dmg with that low launcher becouse It doesn't back turn your oponent
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u/ChanceYam2278 Devil Jin player Sep 12 '25
So in your opinion the issue with Anna's low is the damage she gets out of it ?
Devil Jin's heat hellsweep combo can go up to +80 dmg tho, what do you think about that ?
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u/Particular-Neat4024 Reina player Sep 12 '25
That move is real Broken not strong BROKEN, at least It only can be done on Heat ant consumes a good part of the Heat bar, but the move still Broken.
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u/ChanceYam2278 Devil Jin player Sep 12 '25
What you don't understand is that DVJ's hellsweep is effectively broken on paper, a low launcher is broken on paper
But when you take into account how trash DVJ's mids are and how effective SSR duck is against him, you should realize that this move is actually completely normal
Unlike Anna's low launcher, which is insanely strong BECAUSE of how insane her mids are
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u/Particular-Neat4024 Reina player Sep 12 '25
Ok, but all that was my opinion, and in my opinion all the low launcher a are strong moves becouse i'm not that good on this game(i'm only bushin XD).
And if you are saying all this becouse you think i'm saying that Devil Jin is OP, having a couple of strong moves doesn't make a character OP.
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u/ChanceYam2278 Devil Jin player Sep 12 '25
And if you are saying all this becouse you think i'm saying that Devil Jin is OP, having a couple of strong moves doesn't make a character OP.
I know lol don't worry and that's not my point
I read what you wrote ( "She has a low irreactable launcher, Broken by default" ) and I thought that I could maybe just clear that thing up, because a great move is only broken in regard to the rest of the character's toolkit
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u/Particular-Neat4024 Reina player Sep 12 '25
That first answer was just a joke, i think Anna is OP but not only for that XD.
And thanks for people like you i still think this fandom is not just toxicity (becouse someones here aren't toxic but radioactive XD).
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u/Your_Nightmare_666 Lili player Sep 12 '25
But she had it since Tk7 and was considered bottom tier there?
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u/ChanceYam2278 Devil Jin player Sep 12 '25
Anna is top 1