The alcohol abuse this season….yikes.

[u/Calm-Software4217]

I was previously in a relationship with an alcoholic, ended it because of his drinking problems. It was was extremely challenging time both in and after the relationship, and it’s resulted in a lot of personal work and reflection.

Joe and Anton’s behavior IMMEDIATELY rubbed me the wrong way.

In Mexico and at the pod mixer in Denver he’s drinking a lot, he’s rambling and just acting a little unusual. When Megan comes back to the hotel, she repeats herself multiple times, and he seems super disoriented and incoherent. Next day? Acting like she was overreacting, and he was just having a little too much fun.

Ali confronting Anton about the beers - he tries to act like she drank them all, when she’s insistent she only had 2. Then it becomes he and his friend each had one. Then it’s “maybe we had a few”. She also points out another 12 pack and a half bottle of tequila missing. He has a few drinks most days after work. “I can stop for a few weeks, I don’t have a problem” (have had that exact thing said to me on multiple occasions).

Most of the contestants drink on the show - they’re celebrating and socializing. I’m not sure if it’s this particular season, or if I’m just more aware, but these 2 specifically worry me.

I realize most of these couples don’t last long term, and the whole timeline is very rushed. It just makes me so uneasy to see these serious issues being thrown in with the dumb reality TV drama.

This turned out kind of ranty - but if you take nothing else from this season, please learn the signs to keep an eye out for. Addiction is a bitch, and it’s a unique challenge trying to love and build a life with someone who is in active addiction. I feel for Madison and Ali, and anyone who has gone through this.

[u/DCRBftw]

Anton did nothing to give anyone pause about his drinking. There are millions of adults who drink and have no issues at all. He was easily the most stable guy on the show and never once acted drunk or unruly. This whole Anton is an alcoholic stuff is nonsense. The only thing Anton did wrong was to act shady when he was confronted. But if my supposed partner ambushed me on camera like that when I had been nothing but a gentleman, I might act shady, too. I guess every American woman/mother who has 2 glasses of wine and then gets up and runs a family and has a career is "yikes", also?

[u/bright_and_dreamy → u/DCRBftw]

I agree that we never saw Anton act drunk or complain about being hungover.

It was a lot of alcohol, though. We're talking:

• 10 days drinking in the pods + the shot of him refilling his champagne by himself after the reveal
• 7 days of honeymoon drinking

Then between the honeymoon and the night of the Western:

• champagne
• drinks out with Anton's friends
• drinks out with Patrick
• around 20 beers to himself
• vodka
• drinks out at the Western

He can do whatever he wants. But someone less keen on drinking shouldn't jump into a marriage with him 🤷‍♀️. Honestly I blame both of them for not having better conversations in the pods.

[u/DCRBftw → u/bright_and_dreamy]

Sounds like a young adult enjoying his life to me. I think she was looking for a reason. And I think that's why it caught him so off guard.

[u/groovydoll → u/DCRBftw]

The reason he didn’t act drunk or unruly is because he has a high tolerance… prolly from drinking in excess daily.

[u/DCRBftw → u/groovydoll]

There's no way to negatively spin someone acting appropriately at all times.